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Matty

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Best advice for newcomers?
« on: September 27, 2013, 03:30:11 PM »
Now, to get this started.
Imagine you have a mib_???? in front of you, he's telling you he wants to make a tulpa.
Without looking at the guides or anything, what are the best advices that you could give him?

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Re: Best advice for newcomers?
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2013, 03:32:02 PM »
Why would you want to leave out the guides?
That and just reading around forums always seem to be the best ideas.

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Re: Best advice for newcomers?
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2013, 03:33:14 PM »
This is a huge responsibility, don't do anything stupid, don't give up and you'll be fine. It's totally worth it.

Or send them to the FAQ waffles made. That's kinda what I've been doing.
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Re: Best advice for newcomers?
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2013, 03:55:07 PM »
I would tell him to read guides / threads so that he doesn't ask questions that can easily be answered by a simple search.

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Re: Best advice for newcomers?
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2013, 03:58:10 PM »
Why would you want to leave out the guides?
That and just reading around forums always seem to be the best ideas.
I'm talking about a small "precious" advice that you could give him, guides/forum aside.

I personally would tell him to love his/her tulpa as a best friend, maybe even more. Non-romantically of course, but attention and love are the things that matters imho.
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Re: Best advice for newcomers?
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2013, 09:00:46 PM »
Never think of a tulpa as only a being that lives inside your head.
Think of them as an everlasting friend with added features that normal friends don't have and you should be careful playing with all those features.
Also, tell them that if they keep going at it, no matter what they'll get a tulpa.

I think Matty wants to get our firsthand advice that doesn't say, "go into the guides and check it all out stop asking me"
I think there's barely such a case as insta-tulpas, it's a rare when that sort of thing happens. If that truly happens good for you.
But tulpas are friends, not trophies with a made up story to impress people.

Re: Best advice for newcomers?
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2013, 10:43:36 PM »
The best advice I wish I could have had when I was just starting out with a tulpa is to have faith in them, and believe in their actions.
 I noticed a great amount of progress was made when I tried my best to just believe, and not worry about little doubts that pop into my mind every once in a while.

Re: Best advice for newcomers?
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2013, 06:39:13 AM »
Be chill about it and treat your tulpas with respect. You're the person they need to be able to trust and you need to know your responsibilities. They're not just a toy  for your amusement and if you're not willing to have them with you for the rest of your life, don't even start.

Re: Best advice for newcomers?
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2013, 08:36:29 AM »
Don't overcomplicate things and make sure to not see it as a chore. The last thing you should do is make your tulpa your project, you're supposed to be friends, it's okay to experiment a little but never forget that your tulpa is a friend you're experimenting with, not a lab rat you're experimenting on.

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Re: Best advice for newcomers?
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2013, 02:30:33 PM »
1.) Read guides and don't be afraid to experiment.
2.) Do some hard thinking about weather or not you really want a tulpa.

I wish more people would do #2.

Re: Best advice for newcomers?
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2013, 09:27:35 AM »
Be patient, perseverent and consistent. Also
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I wish more people would do #2.

Re: Best advice for newcomers?
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2013, 07:44:44 AM »
I'm not one to tell someone to treat a being that at least claims to be sapient and does seem to be acting that way like a non-sapient slave toy, just in case they happen to really be sapient. It's one thing to treat a non-sapient creature as if it were sapient than a sapient creature like they're non-sapient. The latter would be pretty awful.

So hey, like, how they say. Treat others like you'd want yourself to be treaten. Don't see why a tulpa should be treated differently. Don't know about you, but I wouldn't want my entire life to be controlled by someone else. Being a fat neckbeard's pony sex slave isn't that hot, really.

Re: Best advice for newcomers?
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2013, 07:54:37 AM »
I hope she also was from a dream and somehow also was astrally projecting into your mind from another plane?

There's a difference between an imaginary thing I think up now for shits and giggles and a tulpa. Where the line goes, hard to say. I'd say once the tulpa can move and talk on its own and also is able to have different opinions from you. Ones you don't control consciously at least, in case a tulpa is nothing more than an unconscious parrot. That and when you have your tulpa disagree with you and tell why exactly you're being stupid, it's something special I tell you.

Re: Best advice for newcomers?
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2013, 10:26:33 AM »
None of us can prove anything. That's why I prefer to follow like, the "better safe than sorry" way. No harm is caused when you treat something that isn't sapient like it was sapient. But it's going to be a pretty awful life if they are sapient and you don't treat them that way. So, better respect and know what you're possibly getting into before you start.

Re: Best advice for newcomers?
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2013, 11:22:49 AM »
First thing's first, don't create a tupper to play out your sexual fantasy. You can do that stuff in your imagination without forcing a potentially sapient being into it. If you like it though and just make a tulpa for some other reason, sure, if the tulpa also likes it then go for it. But it's not the reason why you should make one. That's about the only thing I can say to your first thing.

"It's subjective" is an alright way to say it if you really want to. I didn't really see your answer in this thread as that, "go for it, don't think about it too much" is how I read it as and I don't think it's a very good one. Creating a tupper definitely can help the host, yeah. But that help should never be at the expense of the tulpa because again, moralfag, possibly sapient, blah blah sobstory.

Not sure what the thing about knowing the tulpa's answer is about. I did tons of personality forcing and thought I knew my tupper very well, but in the end, I only really started to know who he really was once he started talking back to me. Even now, I could only really guess how he would answer to something before he does. I might be right often because we are pretty close, but surprises happen, too.

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