I'm probably slow on the uptake, but what's the deal with this article?
http://articles.tulpa.info/amadeus-exodus-a-tale-of-tulpa/Seems related to what I'm talking about, not sure why I haven't seen it until now:
"I learned to use programmed servitors (and eventually do it myself through conditioning) to manipulate my senses while not forcing. While awake, I started effectively being able to control what information my brain processes. I could block out smells, or sounds. Eventually I could block out very specific chains of sound. Today I can selectively hear or not hear something. I can manipulate the taste of food. I can selectively change the way I perceive color or texture. I can choose to see the sky on fire and snowflakes in the wind."
That does not mean that they couldn't have done it themselves, given practice. Although, you are right in mentioning the person with the tremors. It might be as you say, but it could also be that the means of possession cuts out the tremor somehow (I'm not familiar with the neurology).
That's what I'm interested in. It could be something the person would have done themselves; but, they didn't. So what is it about tulpas that makes them able to 'figure this out' while the host is unable to?
We're pretty biased. We've always done things a certain way so we start thinking there is no other way. Again, it's all about the mindset. The mindset of a person who is unable to do something differently might very well be something like "I can only do it this certain way and I can't change it". A tulpa rarely has a mindset like that, but when they do, they can't change shit either. But if they actually do try to do things differently... Things might very well be different.
I buy into this idea on the daily, believe me.
I think that this may be right, but it is more special than it seems to be. This method of simply believing, as a host, seems different than how it functions for a tulpa.
As the host, we do have certain expectations of reality that are ingrained. These are long-standing traditional beliefs we have learned and adopted as dogmas of reality. But I think there are different categories for learning these beliefs, and that the strongest one, that relates to the body and somatic senses, is the most difficult to overcome.
Beliefs as a result of intellect, such as societal norms and what have you, are easy to overcome, as the tulpa phenomena has shown (trumping the belief that you can't create a hallucination (imposition) while sober).
To use the tremors example again, the cause for the tremors itself is neurological. This creates a sensory, chemical impression in the host, that the host feels on a somatic level. The tulpa, never originally having a body with the capacity to be connected to the same neurological wiring, can overcome these sensations. While the host could spend a long time meditating to eventually achieve the same effect, the tulpa is able to do it quickly and without much effort because of this nature. Is this probable?
You might be right, but I don't agree with you completely. It might not be entirely true that tulpas derive all their experiences from the host. Many tulpas report 'sensory sharing' or similar. And you did narrow down to sensory experience specifically, whereas anything related to the body could equally be a factor.
This is slightly confusing: in my definition, all reports of the body coming to the host are done so through senses, acknowledging the fact that there are more than the 5 standard senses. Proprioception is a sense that is commonly ignored, but it might be the most important one in regards to this discussion. What else related to the body is not obtained through the senses?
'Sensory sharing' during possession, or otherwise? I'm assuming that all sensory information that comes in is processed through the host first, even during possession, where both parties may be technically experiencing the sensation. However, maybe this is a false assumption. I wonder if there's any possibility of setting up some sort of test where this could be measured? Or just give me more information, as this is an important point.
Through posting what I was trying to say seems to be more clear to me now. Understanding that 'placebo' or pure belief is a real force in regards to the mind, how can tulpas relate to the mind and body differently than a host as a result of a disembodiment, and how does tulpa belief function in the mind differently than host belief?
I haven't read much about the experiences of hosts when they are switching, if anyone can provide links to PR or related information/research, that would help me out at the moment a lot.