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Makeshift58

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Tulpas and Chemicals
« on: September 27, 2013, 09:08:09 PM »
Now hang on a second, if my tulpa can cause headaches. Then doesn't that mean that they can mess with other chemicals in my head other that can cause other effects?
Could we lessen pain?
Pump adrenaline into our veins whenever we want?
Highs?
Anyone willing to experiment?
This excites me.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2013, 09:25:32 AM by Makeshift58 »
I think there's barely such a case as insta-tulpas, it's a rare when that sort of thing happens. If that truly happens good for you.
But tulpas are friends, not trophies with a made up story to impress people.

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Re: Tulpae and Chemicals
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2013, 04:27:17 AM »
I'm not sure if causing you headaches is done through messing with brain chemistry in a similar way to highs or adrenaline rushes, but there have been some people that claimed to have reached some of these objectives.

Lessening pain: Many say that their tulpa is able to lessen or null weak pain a bit. However I'm positive that with a bit of practice one could reach the point to completely null even quite strong pain, but nobody I know of has tried that, since most people aren't constantly in pain, so there's no reason for them to try to learn that skill.
Also worth noting is that you can do it with self-hypnosis, too.

Adrenaline: Dunno, probably.

Highs: Oguigi said that she was able to give Koomer a dopamine rush pony tulpa magic, they stopped soon after though since it was giving him strong headaches and because messing with brain chemistry can be dangerous, dopamine has been linked to schizophrenia.
Also worth noting is that a few months after they did indeed develop schizophrenia, or at least something similar.
But it probably wasn't only because of that.

Also yes, I'll be willing to experiment as soon as able to, since I seem to be making some slight progress again.
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Re: Tulpae and Chemicals
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2013, 06:31:51 AM »
Might want to change the title to "tulpas", "tulpae" is a nonsense word that means nothing. You can do it yourself as far as I know, but I can change it to you as well.

Lessening pain, definitely. Of course it's something that I was able to learn myself too. Sometimes having a simple tulpa is pretty useful, when his advice is "just do it, I could do it, you can do it too". And in the end, it's nothing more complicated than that. It's just about ignoring the pain, though we haven't exactly tried it with anything too painful and it does take some effort to do it. Maybe with practice, it would become really easy?

There's been reports of people saying their tulpa/s have given them the feeling of high if they have experienced it before in their lives. Does anything actually happen? Hard to say, no one's tested that. The mind is one hell of a drug though, you definitely can mimic a lot with your imagination and make it seem real. Just be careful and don't be stupid about it.

Can't some people give themselves an adenaline rush anyways? Maybe I'm just thinking of something else, but eh. Kind of repeating what I said before, but you don't need a tulpa for this kind of stuff. Again, can't say if anything is actually changed when it comes to the chemistry because no one has tried, but if you have enough willpower and really think it will happen, you can do it. Placebo is a real thing and all that. Many people had the thoughts that tulpas have some innate powers of being able to do things in the brain, but really, you are the same. It's just you doubting yourself hindering you there.

As for Koomer, I'd say he didn't start this entirely sane already and the schizophrenia-like stuff had been posted even before of the whole drug thing, unless he had started the drugs before and didn't just mention them, but did mention the other dudes. At that point he was calling them tulpas, though, but that was posted in a place that as far as I can say, is gone now. Afraid you either gotta trust my word/bad memory, or ignore this as crazy ramblings.

Re: Tulpae and Chemicals
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2013, 09:07:31 AM »
Lessening pain sounds like a reverse touch imposition thing to me. Instead of making yourself feel something that isn't there, you remove the sensation of what is there. There are quite some people who've mastered this without a tulpa, though nothing's stopping you from learning it with your tulpa.

As for the adrenaline shots, I've heard of several tulpamancers who've been able to do something similar, be it dopamine or adrenaline, but then again, those are just claims and not enough people have confirmed them for us to be able to say this is an actual plausibility. However, if adrenaline shots would be possible somehow, then yes, it would be possible to induce a natural high. I don't see the need for doing this though, as learning how to switch is like a controlled version of a DMT high from what i've heard of it, and it doesn't fuck with your brain chemistry. as far as I know

I will most certainly be experimenting with things like these once I've mastered the more basic techniques like possession, imposition and switching, and I'll be glad to see other tulpaforcers do this as well. Priorities first though.

Re: Tulpas and Chemicals
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2013, 04:07:43 PM »
Now hang on a second, if my tulpa can cause headaches. Then doesn't that mean that they can mess with other chemicals in my head other that can cause other effects?
Could we lessen pain?
Pump adrenaline into our veins whenever we want?
Highs?
Anyone willing to experiment?
This excites me.

We are, as humans, capable of manipulating the focus of our attention. In the case of lessening pain, many people can do that simply by keeping focused on something else. Ever get cut, but while doing something with concentrated effort, only to realize later (perhaps at the notice of someone else) that you were bleeding? Highs and lows can be done through a change in current emotions, which are largely under out control to begin with. (You choose how you react to something, largely.)

To give you an idea, what does the inside of your nose smell like? Our body shuts down certain information like that just because it's constant. The same happens with pain. Part of why it hurts so much is it's almost like your body is trying to pull your attention to it, so you can get something done about it (or so that it can do something about it on it's own). People with slight allergic reactions to something that they've always eaten can also do this, as shown with very specific restrictive diets that remove allergenic foods.

Likewise, it would be difficult to otherwise conclude anything done by the tulpa was indeed done by them, or ourselves by proxy. The thing about this is that it would also require extensive blood work. Being very happy alone can increase our mood, strength, and overall well being as well. Aside from the chemical reactions that alone has, it is largely under our control already, but would otherwise be a perceived thing, rather than possibly something actually measurable.

Re: Tulpas and Chemicals
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2013, 04:11:22 PM »
Speaking of pain, there was that one test where a person looked at their wound with binoculars, making the wound look bigger. It started to feel more painful. And then they turned the binoculars the other way around so the wound looked tiny, the pain also lessened.

The human mind sure is something, huh?

Re: Tulpas and Chemicals
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2013, 04:15:00 PM »
I suppose it's because it appears to be a larger concern that way. It recognizes itself and a larger wound that it had. It could also be the idea that using binoculars puts it in more focus for you. It would already be hurting, just you wouldn't be feeling it due to it not being at the forefront of our mind.

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