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Alexius Aurelius:
Can't actually recall how I got into the Tulpa thing, but somehow I got to reading about it and it struck a chord with me. Reminded me of some odd experiences I've had, way back in my old RPing days back in high school. I couldn't resist trying my hand at it for a few reasons, though by now I just feel an odd- and pleasant- sense of attachment to this little concept floating in my brain.

There's a stunning amount of- depressingly contradictory- information out there about how this process is supposed to work. Thus far I've done two serious 15 minute sessions of personality forcing regarding my nascent tulpa, and I am going to be trying some visualization instead tonight. Figure that spare amounts of personality forcing here and there ought to keep her core/backbone intact, whilst she grows and develops.

Name: Lunesta (like the sleeping pill)
Sex: F
Personality Traits: Introverted, sensing, feeling, perceiving; hates emnity between friends, can be a closed book, competitive, curious, learns through doing, cheerful, supportive, mercurial, determined, spontaneous, has faith.
Likes: Animals, tyrian purple, produce, jazz music.
Dislikes: Scorpions, orange, pop, overcooked or highly processed food.

I envision and have seeded her with an active, outgoing personality, and thus wonder if making a Wonderland more fun than my plain and stable life might not help her grow and develop. Thoughts or advice would be welcomed.

Yogi:
Welcome to the community. What information have you found to be contradicting? If anything confuses you, feel free to ask any questions you have. Short sessions of personality forcing like that are good, but it would be valuable to spend as much time as you can talking to your tulpa in your daily life. Getting into the habit of talking to them sooner rather than later is a good thing, and it can't hurt development to speak to her when you have a moment to yourself when you commute or something.

Tulpa and wonderland aren't capitalized. I don't know if a fun wonderland will be as valuable as engaging your tulpa in a way that allows her to be active and outgoing. A wonderland might help, to a degree, but your own influence is paramount.

Alexius Aurelius:
Noted, I'll cease capitalization of them then.

Primarily what confused me was reading from some sources that it was /imperative/ to spend much time with personality forcing, visualizing, et cetera, while others said, golly, you can just passive force amd narrate forever and it'll work! Also, whether of not parroting/puppeting is helpful. What I've read on it ranges from 'you'll speak over your tulpa that way' to 'do it all the time until it becomes second nature.' I like to think that at least I managed to set good expectations for myself regarding the whole process.

Been doing a bit to talk to her when I can, about whatever, but I get nervous that it doesn't do anything. Should I parrot a response for her, or perhaps just keep what I've been doing- visualizing her and then just talking to her without regards to responses?


Spent yesterday visualizing in my session with her. A short recap of personality traits, then trying to clearly bring her up in my mind's eye. Five minutes of that proved difficult, so I brought the room's image up in my mind's eye and puppeted her around in that, visualized how she'd move, walking around, hopping onto things, laying down....

Spoke with her and parroted responses the whole time, and unexpectedly had a minor argument with her over a little snippy disobedience. I suspect since it's so eaely in the process that it was just my very well-developed ability to imagine characters and what they would think/say in a situation, though, which makes me nervous. Between that and some problems with intrusive thoughts, I don't know if I SHOULD do the parroting thing.

That said, felt productive, ended the session feeling happy and relaxed and pretty attached to the babby tupper.

Edit: What do you mean, a way that would allow her to be active and outgoing? What could I do to ensure that?

Sands:
This thing in general is something that no one really understands. We don't know why it happens or how it happens, all we have are our own theories and methods that worked for us. Back in the day you'd have to force for exactly 100something hours to get a vocal tupper, once you imposed them they no longer could change their form and if you didn't visualize a tupper without their clothes, those clothes would be stuck to them. Absolutely idiotic stuff, really. It's the imagination, so pretty much anything is possible.

Because we don't know why something is happening, you should avoid those people who say something will work 100% of the time or if you do something they dislike, it's wrong and RUINS YOUR TULPA. This whole thing is pretty unique to us all and some manage to get a tupper by literally doing nothing while others need to spend a lot of time to get something done. When it comes to personality, I just see them as suggestions and as a form of narration, as you are spending time with your tupper and talking to them. I don't feel like that's the thing that will form a tupper, as deviations always happen and the end result can be quite different fromt what you imagined. After all, if people manage to make tuppers without this personality forcing, it can't be all that important, eh? Up to you how much you want to believe though.

Parroting and puppeting are valid methods. This far I've seen two methods, one where you parrot for a while and then stop cold turkey, and one where you parrot until the tupper just starts doing stuff without you. But you're free to experiment, do stuff that feels right to you. I didn't do parroting myself, didn't really feel like my style.

What Yucky means with active and outgoing is probably how many tuppers (especially when they have hosts with poor mindsets) end up being lethargic and passive, never doing anything on their own and are unable to do really anything if the host doesn't pay attention to them. Let your tupper know that they can do their own stuff, change the wonderland to fit themselves and get hobbies they can do when you two aren't together. Sense sharing is also something a lonely tulpa might appreciate, you two do share a body so both of you can choose to feel what the one in the body is currently seeing, hearing and feeling. Might be fun for them to stick around like that so they can experience the outside world. Tell her - and allow her - to try new stuff for herself.

Alexius Aurelius:
One presumes those things will take a while; or can sense sharing and such be done from the beginning?

Edit: I suppose something that'd really set my mind at ease is just knowing what I'm even capable of doing with a tupper whose creation process only began half a week ago.

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