Author Topic: Every Day is Alice Day  (Read 1129197 times)

Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #210 on: May 18, 2017, 06:00:02 pm »
Yep.
But such people constantly doodle because it's fun for them or they have nothing better to do. Both doesn't really apply to me.
Eh, we'll see how it turns out but realizing how much I lack even the most fundamental basics it's a bit discouraging. Studying human anatomy for now. I feel this will definitely help with imposition.
I've been to the park at sunset every day now, don't feel real progress with meditation or imposition yet but still is a neat thing to do together.
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Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #211 on: May 19, 2017, 12:07:52 am »
Well, only one person who can make any activity fun, eh? That's yourself.

And studying anatomy is always great. Have you remembered to force a digestive system to your tulpa today?!

Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #212 on: May 23, 2017, 06:00:02 pm »
Is this new tupper meme? You should write a guide about it.

Anyway tupper is like


Guardian Spirits don't have digestive systems or any other sort if interior anatomy. It's all gross. And weak.
Or so I am told and considering all the fuss about muh teeth I am inclined to agree.

Read a lot into art theory and drawing basics, started drawing simple geometric shapes as training. Need to develop some fine motor skills and actually learn to hold a pencil the right way before I move on to more complex stuff. Really starting from zero here.
There is, however, one person who's even worse than me, it's tupper of course. Thanks to almost no training, possession mostly doesn't work at all so she can't even hold a pencil. It would be awesome to have Alice do the drawing instead of me but I'm not sure this is gonna work out. Mostly because she's not too enthusiastic about it, even less than me. But we'll give it a try.
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Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #213 on: May 23, 2017, 11:46:44 pm »
It was more like an old tupper meme...

Anyway you don't know what you're missing.

Ask tupper to draw a cat for us.

Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #214 on: May 28, 2017, 05:59:56 pm »
She will!

Might take some time though, tomorrow they'll finally rip out my wisdom teeth.

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Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #215 on: May 29, 2017, 07:27:41 am »
What if she draws it while you're drugged out of your mind?

Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #216 on: May 31, 2017, 07:36:03 pm »
Sorry, no trippy experience so no tupper drawing yet.
Modern painkillers work like a charm without fucking up your perception.

The whole thing, maybe 1.5 hrs in total, worked out well. I'd call it the greatest tuppering benefit so far.



Had to wait quite some time for the injections to take effect while the surgeon was dealing with another patient. Before tupper I would have anxiously cowered in the dentist chair awaiting my fate. But now I spent about 15min imposing Alice, and as we got bored started to inspect medical equipment in the room, dropping an hourglass which rolled under a shelf. Just managed to get everything back to order before the staff returned. The surgeon was a pretty cool guy and talked to me through most of the surgery making me give thumbs up or down as reply while discussing the German academic system. Told me to keep up my underpaid work in academia because society needs such people. Tupper agreed. Well except for the payment part...

So I was kinda occupied but managed to keep tupper around. I also did some wonderlanding and Rubik's cube rotation exercises in between when things got rough. There was nearly no pain, but enormous pressure when my teeth were pried out of my jaw bit by bit. I'll spare you further details but the sound of your own teeth breaking apart is nothing pleasant.

Still nothing to complain, walked home afterwards without much impairment.
So far so good but there's also the bad. While meds work well, some nagging pain remains which kills most motivation. Here tupper can't help as I can't focus on her. Forcing of any sort doesn't really work either. The pain comes and goes, mostly I'm fine. But it's interesting to note that at least for me tuppering works incredibly well against anxiety and fear, sometimes too well. It's pretty effective against low-medium short time pain but completely ineffective against longer lasting aches which get me down.

I did try to draw every day but I'm fed up with basic shapes and drawing anything meaningful just looks like crap. Ah well, I hope my motivation gets better when all pain is gone. I'll finally get that Intuos board this weekend, that's another incentive I hope. Cat will be delivered.
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Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #217 on: June 01, 2017, 07:59:50 am »
Toothache is a special kind of pain, but how about tupper will one day test on trying to numb your pain? >the horn managed to do it.

Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #218 on: June 02, 2017, 09:06:58 pm »
Quote from: Sands
how about tupper will one day test on trying to numb your pain? >the horn managed to do it.


Pls gib advice!

I'm more or less back to normal, no more pain, no more meds. Went back to meditating in the park, was ok. I started reading Betty Edwards - Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain which seems to offer an interesting approach with obvious parallels to tuppering. Definitely need a well-coordinated approach before I mindlessly start to try out random stuff again. And as I've said before I think my main issue is lack of perception. It's really hard for me to actually grasp what I'm seeing so I can't reproduce it in drawing or visualisation.
Tupper will also continue to practice possession so we can both start drawing. This should provide some incentive.

Also had a series of interesting dreams.
Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.

It's absurd how much I take everything in dreams for granted even if it screams 'dream' at me. And even if I know I'm dreaming I rarely manage to become lucid. Still was fun.
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Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #219 on: June 03, 2017, 07:35:23 am »
He literally just did it. I know I tend to jokingly throw that around but that's also legit what you do. The journey is making yourself realize you can do it.

He says it's about willpower. He showed me how to do it too and it's literally just thinking hard enough that it doesn't exist so it doesn't.

Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #220 on: June 10, 2017, 09:40:03 pm »


Hmm, that's kinda what I expected.
Still I wonder. So he was able to numb your pain without your participation?
Also, does it work against persistent stuff like headaches?
I mean, stubbing your toe and ignoring the pain for a few seconds is one thing. I can do that to a certain degree and it indeed works. But tupper still hasn't got the hang of manipulating the body's senses in any sort. Any advice where to start?

It's June, so let's take a look at May.
Personal development: good
The whole dentist stuff worked out really well, tuppering skills have proven highly beneficial. Also took up drawing which I feel will help tremendously with a number of issues, especially visualisation and focusing.

Tupper development: average
See last month. And the ones before. Average equals zero, but that's still average.
We did more outdoor forcing and a bit of possession but it's not going especially well. Alice has drawn some faint shapes that were mostly random as controlling the arm is still very hard. And me drawing has siphoned off a considerable amount of time. I have radically cut down on watching TV and expected to free time for forcing this way but I dunno where it went. Not into forcing, that's for sure.
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Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #221 on: June 12, 2017, 04:41:39 am »
Yeah, headaches are the most common thing to ignore. Super painful I'm-gonna-puke-and-faint might not work, but your average headaches work well. You'll know that you have a headache and there definitely is the feel of a headache, just painless. It's weird to explain and your experience might be different.

Tupper just needs CONFIDENCE. There's no one way to do it, no buttons to press. Though she definitely could imagine a button she presses, symbolism goes both ways after all. She just needs to know she can do it and it will work when she decides to do it. A confident tupper has helped me a ton.

ps force more faggot

Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #222 on: June 18, 2017, 07:50:55 pm »
That's pretty amazing!
Luckily I don't suffer from headaches or other persistent pain very often, we never managed to deal with that.
I guess the main issue is not confidence but rather resolve or motivation. Both of us and especially tupper have very low resilience and can't cope with unpleasant situations. We excel under optimal conditions but as soon as there is even a slight annoyance, our abilities, or rather the will to use them, crumble to dust. That does not apply to stuff that can be immediately resolved or is otherwise exciting, but mundane things you have to sit out or live with really kill the mood. Hard to explain. I honestly had fun at the dentist, it was not an issue and tuppering worked well while having my teeth removed. But going through that once a week would be something else and just a pain. So our motivation, and that's the main factor determining our abilities, highly depends on our surroundings. I know that's not good and it really sucks but changing that ain't gonna be easy.

Wow, you can really learn a lot about yourself by observing tupper.
Come to think about it, I've found that practicing drawing really wears me out and gives me headaches. So that could be a good way to start practicing pain removal.

I had 2 more vivid and equally absurd dreams with tupper references. There were aliens and robots, the Dalai Lama and Minister of Finance Wolfgang Schäuble. Even realized I was in a dream once but that caused me to wake up.

Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #223 on: June 19, 2017, 12:29:41 am »
But did you force more?

Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #224 on: June 24, 2017, 05:55:03 pm »


more, yes
enough, no
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