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Tulpas => Tulpa Diaries => Topic started by: dreamer on September 21, 2013, 07:50:56 AM
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Hello there, noobdreamer here.
I've already been working for almost 7 months, I started on 27th february 2013.
So here's a small tl;dr of what happened until now:
I've been forcing and she hasn't spoken yet, but recently I've been working more and harder because before I wasn't really doing much.
Teenage boy with a female tulpa, your average tulpamancer.
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Force harder, report results.
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For someone that hasn't gotten anything back over 7 months and still trying, I give full kudos to you. Most people just give up after a week.
I'm sure you'll get a response if you keep trying.
Just keep working harder on her.
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I'm watching this. Keep us posted, please. Best of luck!
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Uh, eyes looking on us.
I'll try to chase them away using Comic Sans.
Wait this isn't Comic Sans. Damn dark theme.
This is what I needed to prove that waffles is wrong. Dark theme best theme.
Ok, onto the actual tulpa diary side now.
I'm mostly working on visualization right now, since I really neglected that aspect (like pretty much everything else) during the first months and I've started to think it might be something that can help me.
I'm still a bit dependent on reference pictures, if I don't take a look every now and then the face tends to be blurred.
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<--- And this is supposed to be my tulpas account as soon as she's vocal.
And I see now that comic sans isn't comic sans on the light theme either. wat.
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I don't think it's exactly needed to post that information, Dreamer. Not to mention it's kind of iffy to post using someone else's account when they aren't even able to write themselves yet. I'm not against making an account for a non-vocal tupper though in my mind it would be much more polite to ask them if they even want one in the first place before making one, but posting and telling about it just seems unnecessary, you know?
Might want to not use her account. She's welcome to speak here when she's ready to do so.
Visualization is a good skill to have and practice. There's so much information you can get out of a non-vocal tupper by just looking at them. Little things count and there's so many communication methods you can use besides words. Using those non-verbal communication systems can be critical when it comes to getting vocal. In our case, it was definitely myself who had to learn to listen and if we didn't have other ways of communicating I trusted, I'm not sure if I would've bought the early words I got out of him.
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Yeah I didn't really think much about it before posting, sorry ^^'
I wasn't planning on using the account for anything else anyway, so don't worry about that.
Also good to hear that visualization is indeed something useful, I'll be working on that!
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Well, in the end, it's pretty personal as to what's useful and not. But I don't see it hurting and it could help a lot.
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I'll try to chase them away using Comic Sans.
Wait this isn't Comic Sans. Damn dark theme.
I'm still a bit dependent on reference pictures, if I don't take a look every now and then the face tends to be blurred.
Comic Sans master race.
Yeah, I had to use reference pictures a lot back when I was rather new. My visualization has improved since then, and now I can see her almost clear without them. Just keep going and it should get easier.
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I did a quick google search to see what exactly an egregore is, since I saw that term around here a few times, and I found this:
http://forums.vsociety.net/index.php?topic=10859.0;wap2
The part where it explains how to make a servitor (his definition of it, not ours) sounds like an interesting way to make a tulpa.
He (or maybe she?) also seems (I only skimmed it) to lay quite some importance on mastering visualization, "thought control", etc. before actually starting.
Maybe that's something we should encourage more here? Just an idea.
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They're Wiccan terms, so you're going to bump into magick when you go look for more information. There's plenty of tulpa-like aound though, people just obviously have their own reasonings as to what they are.
Visualization isn't necessary of course and some people probably work better with something other than their sight, but I do find it very useful, especially early on when you're in that pre-vocal stage. For many other communities based around tupper-likes, imposition is super important too because it's a hallucination which makes them think it's real and magical and such. But thought control - assuming you mean the same I do - I really think you should be at least trying to get good at. I think that's what I have always been telling people to do and we did even remind people in the FAQ on this site that everything weird that happens in your head is your imagination and under your control.
I wouldn't say you have to master these things when starting tulpaforcing, though of course better skills help. But you can practice while you force, so it's two birds with one stone. Only if you find your skills completely lacking would I ever tell you to just work on bettering the skills without involving forcing to it as well, but normally, I think you get all the practice you need as you force.
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Uuhhhhhhhh!
I'm pretty positive (sure is a bit of a big word here) that progress is being made!
When I started forcing today I felt that warm and fuzzy chest feeling again, Lea seemed to move quite independently (and dance!) and she appeared to be a lot more "solid" for lack of a better word.
Of course I'm not completely sure since it's just my fantasy and I could be making this up unconsciously, but it's great to see something coming out of it :D
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Congrats on the progress!
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If you can't believe, it's better to just avoid disbelief than to outright force yourself to believe. At least that's how I think. The "maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, but it's cool if it was" attitude is a healthy one.
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Of course I'm not completely sure since it's just my fantasy and I could be making this up unconsciously, but it's great to see something coming out of it.
Not a good mindset.
You need to believe. Just believe in it, even if it sounds silly. You're not making this up unconsciously, okay? I had that mindset and it really fucked me up, tupperwise. Just know that it's not a fantasy and keep pushing forward.
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And I'd say that's a bad mindset, because if you doubt now and force yourself to believe, later on you will start wondering if you even had anything in the first place as you forced yourself to accept it and never had second thoughts when you should've. Seen many people have everything go down the drain once they got hit in the head with that.
Nothing wrong with healthy skepticism. Just don't block everything, let it come, give it time. Don't push it away and shit.
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just go with the flow
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I've been going with the attitude Sands proposed for quite a while now, since it seemed the most reasonable, and I'll probably stick to that for the foreseeable future.
Also you guys are damn fast at replying.
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I'm pretty sure if someone posts anything at this point it will be attacked. I'll go distract them with fun general discussion topics
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No draemer, you're still a fucking noob.
Eh, pensavi eh? Qui dentro non è che scrivo che stavo scherzando, sei niubbo forte comunque. <3 jk
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Eh, pensavi eh? Qui dentro non è che scrivo che stavo scherzando, sei niubbo forte comunque. <3 jk
I can do retarded languages, too.
Jag förstår inte Italienska och du borde dö okej hej då
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Jeg snakker ikke svensk, faggot.
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faggot.
Well played.
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Well played.
Merci, faggot.
Anyway since all the cool kids today seem to be talking about ponies:
PONY
So on the actual forcing side, visualization is starting to get decent, and I got some "maybe" emotional responses, but quite weak compared to last time.
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Merci, faggot.
You mean bassoon.
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Still working on visualization, it's getting better and more solid regarding touch, I think I'll move onto detailing the rest of the body soon, but first I'll have to figure out the damn nose.
Fuzzy chest feelings are still weak but maybe increasing in intensity, I'm not sure.
And I have (yet again) to increase narration time, I suck at that.
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I wrote about positive affirmations before, so I guess you should try it, as well. Because it really works. Don't say you can't do it, know you can do it. Because you can.
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Thank you, I'll keep that in mind.
Turns out a nice thing to do before forcing is to just sit down, relax, and let my mind wander around. And use a bit of your positive affirmations.
Visualization felt less detailed but more vivid and solid (if this makes any sense to you), and she moved quite a bit again, if it was really her.
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Experimenting with the Ganzfeld Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganzfeld_effect).
I spent half an hour in a pitch black room listening to fede's tones, and got disappointingly little results.
I'll keep trying and try harder to impose during it, let's see if I can turn it into something useful.
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Supposedly, you need a red light with two halves of a ping-pong ball over your eyes.
Now where to find those.
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The red light is optional, but the ping pong balls are not. That's kind of the whole thing.
Dreamy, you didn't think you were really trying it when you lied there with the lights out, did you? Because you do that every night.
The whole idea is that the ping pong balls diffuse the incoming light so that all you see is more of the same. I actually tried it myself, recently, and got some sort of results.
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Dammit.
I understood that it was about having one of your senses (in this case vision) perceive either nothing or a uniform signal, so that the brain cuts it out.
Therefore I thought that a completely pitch black room was enough.
Whatever, I'll still keep trying to impose in dark room with tones, it felt a bit easier to do open eyed visualization there.
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Very short amount of forcing today, but I want to try lucid dreaming forcing, or at least to try to communicate with her in some manner via dreams.
I'll be using the WILD method since I feel like I am now more ready for it than I was last time around.
If this won't work I'll be trying the other traditional lucid dreaming methods.
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The fact that you post the same thing both here and on .info makes it hard for me to decide what to do.
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The fact that you post the same thing both here and on .info makes it hard for me to decide what to do.
Make 3rd tulpa forum to post responses.
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Bet you didn't see that one coming.
Like, not at all.
Anyway, nope no progress yet, need to increase forcing time again though <.<
Uhm, what else...
Hi Enny! (In case you're reading this)
Oh, and Oslo is ~~cold~~
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He can't speak it fluently. Also English forum ohno.
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Don't worry, I have a dictionary right here, tysk-norsk norsk-tysk (fuck google translate I need exercise).
Also wait aren't you a swede? No swoddish dictionary.
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Fodde ain't a Swede.
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Du unngikk å svare på min utpeking av din mangel på bruk av hjernestimulanten, så jeg vil med glede si det igjen: bruk den dag og natt, og bli kvitt med konsentrasjonsproblemer. Min norska är inte vad den brukade vara. Jag tackar den elektroniska översättare för hjälpen. Nu är det bara en tidsfråga innan den indiska flickan går i konversationen. Det må du undskylde. Jeg lader til en anden god gang vær, men gør mig alligevel den tjeneste at bruge mit påvirkningsapparat. Nævnte jeg, at det er gratis?
Du talar Svenska, dude.
"Min norska är inte vad den brukade vara. Jag tackar den elektroniska översättare för hjälpen. Nu är det bara en tidsfråga innan den indiska flickan går i konversationen."
Svenska inte Norska.
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Still an English forum.