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Half-formed tulpa from the start

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Sands:

--- Quote from: Argentum on September 30, 2014, 07:19:22 PM ---I think I disagree with Sands a little though.  I think that as long as you're thinking about the tulpa, and as long as you are connecting these different characters as the same person, its all cool.  Its just a different method of forcing.

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I don't see where I implied differently and it's not like every single thing you do with a tulpa ever = forcing, either. These days, I wouldn't say normal talking is forcing even though it basically is narration nor would I say that normally spending time with him is forcing or something. I guess whatever you do that is forming the tulpa is forcing but once your tulpa basically is well developed enough, I wouldn't call the time you spend with them after that forcing. But just because something isn't "forcing" doesn't mean it isn't a good thing to do or wouldn't have you forming a tulpa, as I guess you often do have to treat the tupper as a real person to get the most out of this whole thing. Holding doors open or making sure they have actual physical space to sit in would be pretty good for imposition, as it's all about fooling yourself to see what isn't there and such gestures would only make the illusion stronger. But one small gesture is hardly "forcing" on its own in my eyes, but it would be a part of imposition you're doing at the moment, passive or active - and whether or not you would call that forcing is up to you, I guess.

Some things are pretty easily identified as forcing. I guess others are a bit more hazy, but the time you spend with a tulpa is never exactly wasted.

Argentum:

--- Quote from: Sands on October 01, 2014, 06:26:14 AM ---I don't see where I implied differently and it's not like every single thing you do with a tulpa ever = forcing, either.

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I thought that was what forcing is; interaction with a tulpa. 

I don't think you implied anything.  Rather our definitions are different.


--- Quote from: Sands on October 01, 2014, 06:26:14 AM ---These days, I wouldn't say normal talking is forcing even though it basically is narration nor would I say that normally spending time with him is forcing or something. I guess whatever you do that is forming the tulpa is forcing but once your tulpa basically is well developed enough, I wouldn't call the time you spend with them after that forcing.

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Do you consider forcing to be what creates a tulpa, not what sustains it?   Aren't they pretty similar actions?

Sands:
I don't think a tupper really needs to be "sustained" after a certain point. Seems like they stick around no matter what if they're independent enough and can amuse themselves. And at that point hanging out together really becomes just that, hanging out together. Normal interaction, while I'd say forcing is more about that creation and early process stuff when you actually have to put in more effort into it. Can't honestly call our normal everyday life forcing as this is quite different from how it was when I was still trying to get the tupper to be vocal.

I'd say there's a difference so it feels silly to be calling two things that just feel so different as the same thing, you know?

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