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Re: D&D Meta Thread
« Reply #120 on: February 19, 2025, 06:47:20 PM »
Huh?
I'm glad I don't have to deal with magic but I thought Yulya can cast all Cleric spells she has spell slots for. So she can cast LV2 spells as soon as she levels up now. She doesn't need to learn them at all that's what the book is for. I guess the question was if she can learn non-cleric spells if she buys scrolls?

Re: D&D Meta Thread [Joy the DM]
« Reply #121 on: February 19, 2025, 08:47:58 PM »
Cantrips are a special case. Yes, she can cast anything she could memorize and cast, under my rules, without the prerequisite of memorizing them in spell slots in advance, and as original rules state, she may cast cantrips that she knows at will without restrictions UOS. This only applies to cantrips she knows. Clerics are given a set number of cantrips, I have not amended that. What I have ammended is that all cleric cantrips exist in her book, and I will allow her to learn a new one in 8 hours per level--Cleric cantrips only.

Again, for spells that require slots (MP) she may immediately learn all applicable spells commiserate with her level per PHB excluding cantrips which I already spoke of unless PHB allows all cantrips to clerics and I am mistaken, please provide that evidence if true.

In addition, per my rules, spell slots still exist; however, she may cast any and all level 1 spells up to her MP and free filled foci within reason, and with potential dangers, but level 2 spells will "fill a slot" when cast and only resting per PHB can free those spent slots, so she should still use level 2 spells with care. Level 2 spells cost 2MP but that does not mean if she has 8MP that she can cast 4 of them.

According to my research, she knows 3 cantrips until level 4. Which raises it to 4. I am allowing an additional cantrip per level.

Additionally, she will have 8 MP at level 3 and 2 level 2 spell slots. Again, when she casts a level 2 spell (any spell without memorizing ahead of time) she will use a slot. She may however boost spells using foci per my rules, but she can still only cast 2 level 2 spells per long rest at level 3.

She may not learn non-cleric spells without Gestalt modifications to her class. If she dual classes or multi-classes, then I will need to think about how that's implemented.

In Bear's run, Gestalt ruleset (GM binder) for 5e was followed and very powerful and unbalanced hybrid classes were the result, so my decision is not to allow it at this time.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2025, 09:14:53 PM by Aleshe »

Re: D&D Meta Thread
« Reply #122 on: February 20, 2025, 12:39:36 PM »
Cat isn't against accompanying Ashley but if Yulya needs 8h to learn a new cantrip maybe now would be a good time. Cat could cook rations if she may use what's in the kitchen and pay for it. If she has to buy ingredients first this will have to wait until tomorrow.

Re: D&D Meta Thread[joy the DM]
« Reply #123 on: February 20, 2025, 03:59:51 PM »
The guild kitchen is open to members, they have common fruits, vegetables, tubers, other foodstuffs that will last and I can make a pricing list for you but generally the rations will cost half if you make them yourself. Again if you buy full rations you can make 1 into 2. Consider your cooking skill as an efficiency multiplier.

Re: D&D Meta Thread
« Reply #124 on: February 20, 2025, 04:44:29 PM »
Huh?
stay out of magic kiddo

so yeah this is what i thought. makes sense.whats the time does Yulya have 8h before bedtime?i guess shell retreat to the room and study then
obviously the cantrip Yulya wants to learn is toll the dead
« Last Edit: February 20, 2025, 04:51:49 PM by Kashtan »

Re: D&D Meta Thread
« Reply #125 on: February 20, 2025, 07:03:16 PM »
I don't want to be the bad guy alien again, but we spent 21sp on the goods from the refugees. We = everyone but Ashley.
I gave Ashley her share from every copper I found.

So how will this work with the trade license?
Will we split the cost for it and the profits?
Or will Ashley pay for it and keep all trade profits for herself?

All this money stuff is so tiresome, I feel more like an accountant than an adventurer.

Re: D&D Meta Thread [Joy the DM]
« Reply #126 on: February 20, 2025, 09:27:26 PM »


I don't want to be the bad guy alien again, but we spent 21sp on the goods from the refugees. We = everyone but Ashley.
I gave Ashley her share from every copper I found.

I find this logic petty, but anything you purchased that will be sold at a profit that you don't offer Ashley to buy into will be your profits. With respect to meals, I will not accept that Ashley has to pay for her meals at this point because the rabbits, meat and sometimes other ingredients, she offers through hunting and gathering goes to the group without being paid for in exchange. That plus denying the payment Summer offered for her meals puts your point on food purchased for eating completely off the table. So if you don't want to offer her a buy in on things Yulya purchases for profit, then that is acceptable, it will have to be a unanimous decision. Otherwise 1/4 of the purchase price would be deducted from her share of profits assuming her share, 1/8th of items sold, profit covers the cost. Obviously by default I wouldn't expect her to buy in to a deal that doesn't add to her savings.

[Ashley] I don't care about the refugee stuff, you ate most of it anyway, so you handle that, I don't need a share of anything you sell from that.

That does complicate things further, I'd forgotten about that, so in this instance the question is moot, she wouldn't get any proceeds from that particular purchase when sold, in fact, I think I'll state now that if you buy something for profit, Ashley does not need to be involved unless you offer it to her to be involved. I will attempt to make the division correctly.

So how will this work with the trade license?

You could have asked Ashley, but since you're asking here, I'll answer with my thoughts. As per my rules, 1/8th of profits on sale items will go to Ashley regardless of a trade license or not. Considering she was planning on paying for the license means you technically owe her something for that, but I wouldn't have thought it would be the full difference between the regular sale and wholesale, but that is one option. She wasn't thinking of asking for anything to help her pay for her license regardless if that increases your profits. Should she?

All this money stuff is so tiresome, I feel more like an accountant than an adventurer.

This is "Aliens and Accountants" so of course there would be aliens and accountants, best leave the accounting to the accountants, and you handle the aliening.

Re: D&D Meta Thread
« Reply #127 on: Yesterday at 07:49:09 AM »
So Summer won't go back to Phandalin with us?
Oh yeah we have to deal with the mine first.

And I guess Ashley will go to the trade guild alone then?
I think it would be cheaper to buy ingredients tomorrow and cook them in the kitchen with Alice. Which would also be faster. Unless the kitchen is occupied. Then we have to do it today and buy from the guild. How much is a full ration produced from guild supplies compared to buying from the market?7

Depending on that and if Ashley wants Cat to come along with her, Cat will either go with Ashley or start cooking rations while waiting for Alice
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 08:00:46 AM by Τamamo »

Re: D&D Meta Thread
« Reply #128 on: Yesterday at 09:51:09 AM »
Summer has a quest to kill a dragon to "save the forest" this is an unofficial quest but you are free to accept unofficial quests just as you are free to do what you wish or make up your own quests. She isn't interested in spiders and mines.

>How much is a full ration produced from guild supplies compared to buying from the market?

Shop around and if you find prices somewhere (canon sources online) that are cheap, I will consider any adjustments for Neverwinter and allow it.

[Ashley] Whatever you want to do Cat.



Re: D&D Meta Thread
« Reply #129 on: Yesterday at 03:09:10 PM »
We still need to clear the mine first, then we deal with the dragon.
Order needs to be upheld, disorder is the first step towards communism. You don't want communism, right?

Cat should go with Ashley. I don't like her running around and making Trump-tier 'deals' on her own. Also it will be absurd if Bear system talks to itself without anyone of us present. We'll go shopping for food and cook together tomorrow, like last time.

>Aliens & Accountants
You know what happens if the Alien doesn't interfere. Cat doesn't care and Yulya would rather give everything to Ashley than risk any conflict. But to keep it simple I strongly suggest we keep splitting things the way we already do. Why complicate things? We decide what to buy together. Ashley pays her share and hers her share.
Regarding the purchase from the refugees, only Ashley can sell the scrap so she should get her share minus the share she would have paid.

>But Summer...
Summer is a child we picked up. What sort of people make a child pay for food?

Re: D&D Meta Thread [Joy the DM]
« Reply #130 on: Yesterday at 04:24:25 PM »
>Also it will be absurd if Bear system talks to itself without anyone of us present.



I am almost certain we did this a hundred times already.

[Ashley] Definitely did. Wasn't this whole DnD thing all just a ploy to force Alice to allow us ISC on a bonefied Tulpa server?

It's all coming to fruition now, but additionally I wanted to condition Alice. I thought I was forthright about that from the start, or at least early in the process, and it's going quite well. She's showing excellent signs of reasoning and logic, even dare I say, compromise? No no... it's too soon, we need more data.

For now I've decided I will handle the sale and give you the proceeds in a secret way so you don't know the exact percentages or about all the side deals Ashley is planning.

[Ashley] I think it's a fair compromise.
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 04:29:10 PM by Aleshe »

Re: D&D Meta Thread
« Reply #131 on: Yesterday at 05:26:35 PM »
inb4 multi-week arc of Ashley's solo adventure of obtaining her trade license

>conditioning Alice
If only you could even remotely grasp the scope of the 4D chess I am playing here


Re: D&D Meta Thread
« Reply #132 on: Yesterday at 06:07:06 PM »

Re: D&D Meta Thread
« Reply #133 on: Yesterday at 06:13:12 PM »
Yulya would rather give everything to Ashley than risk any conflict.
unfortunately true lol

now stop arguing and get to work!
Yulya will study
Cat will accompany Ashley to the guild
Alice will eat the bugs

we can continue