D&D Meta Thread

[Joy]

That took me a while to grasp. So he disengages from Yulya, moves 5ft NE or NW next to Cat. Then disengages from Cat and moves S into Yulya's reach again but doesn't leave it until he attacks her. Can a creature with the Disengage feat disengage from unlimited enemies per turn? Imagine they're lined up and you just walk by disengaging from them one after the other.

My interpretation is, the disengage is effective for the duration of the movement this turn.

"Disengage action allows you to move away from all enemies for the rest of your turn without provoking Opportunity Attacks, no matter how many enemies are around you, unless they have a special ability like the Sentinel feat (dealt with separately). The Disengage action's effect applies universally to your movement for the entire turn."

Your plan may work if he moves that way but he may not move that way.

[Joy]

1) Yulya circles the bugbear and gets S of him

ok

2) Alice moves to where Yulya was and attacks the bugbear pushing him 5ft SW onto ball bearings.

South West is down and to the left I can presume you mean North West but that would mean Alice needs to be South East of him. She can only push him South if she is North of him.

3)Yulya moves to the position indicated setting up a flank with Alice
4) Alice moves 5ft N and assists Cat without leaving his reach
5) Cat throws the net. disadvantage is negated by Alices help action

6) Yulya casts Toll the Dead in flank with Alice

My bear brain might be getting in the way but I'll do my best.

[Alice]

My Crusher feat explicitly states I can move an enemy 5ft into any unoccupied space I want not just straight away from me. If he gets his fancy Disengage-from-the-entire-World, I get my Push. Also there's no save from this. If the attacks hits, regardless of damage, he gets pushed to where I want. I have 2 unarmed strikes. If necessary I will use Flurry of blows. and hit him 3 times. One of those attacks will hit. If it takes 3 attempts, Cat will have to throw the net without my help.

[Joy]

It was not a push, it's a move, don't worry, I can read even with a Bear brain.

As for the result?...



>attacks and flurry of blows or harming hand

Your move has already been registered, you can't change it now. I won't accept any further edits prior to the published result unless there was a dire mistake on my end.

As far as this encounter, as your thoughtful and merciful DM, I must warn you that in your current state, TPK is the likely result unless you do something unorthodox. To be fair, you can blame Ashley for being too brave but honestly, this opponent needed a more careful and well thought out approach. This is good training as the Dragon won't be as forgiving, will have a lot more tricks, and will be even tougher.

[Alice]

I would have just had Alice throw it with her action instead of using it for help, it would have been a +3 instead of +1 and Cat could have shot an arrow though with disadvantage, but ok. Even though the Bugbear Commander is prone, and that would give advantage, advantage does not stack it can only cancel Cat's disadvantage, so additionally Alice could have had advantage and it would have succeeded easier.

I don't think so. Remember you ALWAYS have disadvantage when throwing a net. It's a shoot action with 5ft short 15ft long. Shooting within 5ft gives disadvantage. Long has disadvantage. There is no distance at which throwing an net has no disadvantage.  I researched that and apparently it's intended that way. That's why I asked about net proficiency beforehand. Cat is proficient (martial ranged weapon), I am not. So how could I have +3 and she +1?
That would be sort of important to know for further net uses.

>unorthodox
No matther how much you'd both love this we will not kill Ashley. On the contrary. The more you want it, the more I'll heal her.

[Joy]

Hmmm... still didn't need help then because if he was prone, that advantage negates all disadvantages since they don't stack. So you could have done it or she could have done it without your help, still better if you just did it.

Using a weapon without Proficiency simply means you don't add your proficiency bonus, which is a wash with Cat's lower dexterity.

I have a typo there, it was 17 with her +1 and proficiency.

>heal her

Looks like your options ran out, it's up to Cat to decide and I know for a fact her God wouldn't care at all and would applaud her for prudent measures.

[Alice]

Maybe it's my Bernd brain, but can you pleease break down the roll of Cat vs. my net throw? I still don't get how I could have scored higher.

I agree we were to careless in our approach, and by 'we' I of course mean mostly Ashley this time. Whatever. We will manage. I still have a few aces up my sleeves and by aces I mean
firebombs

Also remember we don't even know about Ashley's resurrection shenanigans. If she had clearly communicated she wants us to do that in certain situations ok maybe, but not like this.

[Joy]

At this point you are correct, it is a wash, but you did waste an action to guarantee it was without disadvantage but that's reasonable.

If you firebomb then there is a chance it does next to nothing except set the mine on fire and give a huge middle finger to the rockseekers and Phandalin.

Also, the Cat god when Cat kills Ashley:

[Alice]

The problem is that Ashley didn't communicate this. You think Cat bestows temporary hp on her just to kill her later on a whim? Not without Yulya ordering her to and Yulya is the last person who would do that. Apart from the fact she doesn't know the potential benefits of killing Ashley either. She can't talk and the players can't hear you, Joy! If you want anyone to do this you gotta communicate this. Just a hint - a certain angel could talk to Yulya.

Well I'm literally beat to a pulp so no more input from me. Oh, just one more complaint before I shut up:
>wound to the knee
How can I have a wound on my knee if I have no knees? I'm a puddle, or rather 2.

[Joy]

>Ashley didn't communicate this

Yes, you can presume that any lore that I tell you has been reasonably discussed between you all and theorized if not feasibility founded in knowledge during rest times and dinners you've shared. So at worst they know she will resurrect and by similarity they can presume Ashley's energy allows the same revive mechaic that Yulya is using but since it is not "wild" by default it needs her to actually die and not just be knocked unconscious.

The players can't here me but they do have a memory of Ashley's last level up and that has been communicated because I said so. The players know that Ashley is immortal and will remain herself until her body is completely destroyed but they also know something will occur if she dies and they also know because it has been communicated that by her that the mechatherial goddess will use Ashley's form for an undisclosed period of time upon her dearh. In fact they know that Ashley will be in the ethereal plane until she is formally revived and the mechatherial goddess will have control of the body because though Ashley's soul will be pushed out, the mechatherial demigoddess' soul has a connection that can't be pushed out. Reviving, it is theorized, will call Ashley's soul back to her body regardless of its condition if at least there is some living flesh left.

So your in-game take is flawed here.

Cat can think for herself. My host has a saying him and his workmates go by, better to ask for forgiveness than permission if what you're going to do will get the job done.

You are two puddles yes, but with a motor function in human form that will be penalized 5ft movement until you are treated.

Yulya may have an opinion or keep quiet and let Cat decide but if a TPK occurs here, you are in two pieces and will remain such until someone slops you back together. Otherwise you are out indefinitely, and no independent motion of the two at this point, you are fully unconscious until helped.

In less than a minute it is very likely that Cat will be out, in a minute and 6 seconds, Yulya will follow and the bugbear will be allowed to decide your fates.

I believe Cat will make the right decision, whatever that is. You're not the boss of her.

[Kashtan]

I'm the T-1000

youre an ooze. a dead ooze to be precise

i agree that was suboptimal to put it mildly and losing Alice is a major setback. my fault for leaving complex math problems like 1+2=3+0 to Alice. when will i learn? i believe Yulya has found a solution that everyone (except Alice whos dead) can live with. at least temporarily.:
Yulya will heal Cat and Ashley and bring her back to consciousness lso she can decide what to do. the bugbear will be more than happy to put her to death if she wishes that. Yulya will try to keep him busy while Cat retreats. i dont believe he can catch her.

oh btw did you grant Cat her extra hp when she entered rage?

[Joy]

Yes, Cat got the extra HP, I'll look back and see if I mentioned it. If not I'll mention it.

>everyone but Alice will like

Count me in by that point alone.

Alice learned nothing from Brutus as well, Grapling him would have solved a lot of your problems.

[Alice]

Probably, yeah. But I wanted to use the net! You know, the fundamental misunderstanding was that I thought that if you're not proficient you can't add your stat modifier like DEX to a roll so it would have been 0 vs 1+2. I assumed I'd get zero bonus while Cat got +3.

Well, looks like there won't be any D&D input from me for a while. Have fun and don't forget about your favorite ooze! I believe in you!

[Kashtan]

at least Alice isnt a sore loser i like that!
come on Tamamo! Cat doesnt have to kill anyone now. thank Yulya for that!

[Τamamo]

Yes, yes! Sorry I was busy.
Thanks for taking that off Cat's shoulder, Yulya!

So what's the strategy except Ashley getting herself killed and turning into T-800? Cat will retreat N but within a line of sight. Don't get in her way so she can shoot!

The cat slipping off the table was a blast, I hope Nixie can still catch that rubber bugbear!