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Fede:
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Enny:
Did edit it out, cause idunno, felt kinda silly to say. It's not my situation necessarily, it's the way you worded that last post. Imean, if you didn't strike me as one before, you kinda seemed.. Idunno what the word is, really off for that last one. Seems like you just generally dislike that kinda relationship, and in discouraging it, in favor of Tulpa relationship, which is cool and all, still love, you really kinda came off as a.. What's the word, Neckbeard doesn't feel right, but a friend who I've been trying to get in around here said something along the lines of, or more so in quoting, "like... is he actively discouraging meeting other people? I don't understand..."

That just killed me. It seems like you're about as antisocial as it gets, whether you're trying to come across that way or not. So yeah, Idunno, I've been asking people in happy relationships for advice a bit of today, and they seem to be a lot better at giving it than you, currently deemed level two Neckbeard, says I. Course, this just pertains to anything regarding being social, or doing things in the real world, I'm still happy to take suggestions elsewhere.

EDIT: And god damn it, okay, I kinda just wanna know what's wrong with liking some gal I've only seen seven or eight times, talked to once or twice. Not much, but for the third fukn time, gotta start somewhere, right? I don't know specifically what it is about her, but I do like her a good bit, yeah. And what the hell was that about the club, a couple posts back? Common ground? I know damn well our taste in games is similar, and that at least is something. Not sure why a club seems more viable to you. It kinda seems like, after thinking back on that, you're kinda just adamant on emphasizing how stupid this is, on my part. It's silly, but I don't think a crush is really stupid, by any means. GameStop might not be ideal, but hey, she's there, I can ask what she recommends, and I can certainly carry a conversation once me and whoever else are on the same page. Hell, yeah, it's her job to talk about them, but I doubt it can be awful, considering how she doesn't seem so broken as a lot of employees are, in various stores, and manages to ask if she can help like, three times per visit. As stated somewhere back there, a first name basis would be great. Definitely a start. I'm kinda starting to think it's you who doesn't really get how becoming friends with someone works. Ya talk. Then you got a name. Then you talk more. Gets more comfortable. Friends.

If I even wanna try risking that by asking her out or something after that point, then I will, but If I feel like I shouldn't, or should wait, or whatever, I won't.

Septimus:
Alright but really? Fede Do you really consider yourself so far above this kid? You are so goddamn condescending, I think I may become physically ill!

--- Quote from: Fede on January 07, 2014, 11:47:43 PM ---When Miriam one day is developed enough to be a satisfactory friend in all departments you feel empty in, maybe you'll think differently about friends in general, like me. Such is my hope either way, so that you may finally put an end to this desperate craving and start enjoying life with one that truly understands you like no one else ever would be able to.
--- End quote ---

--- Quote from: Fede on January 08, 2014, 12:50:44 AM ---As for selectively not taking what I say seriously, that's up to you. If you want to be oblivious, then so be it.
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You clearly can't even begin to try to see the world through any scope but you own! You just hold up your situation as the pinnacle of of perfection, using the fact that other people aren't exactly like you as a reason to insult them.

To be completely honest, your situation sounds really terrible; you rely solely on your tulpa for companionship and let that stop you from forming any other relationships. Don't get me wrong, the idea of a tulpa drew me in for similar reasons as you listed, something to talk to that will really get what you are saying, better than probably anyone else can, but by no means would I consider that to be the only interaction I want in life. As someone who, apparently unlike you, actually had a few relationships, I can legitimately say that the whole feel is different from having a tulpa. Not inferior, not superior, just flat out different. It is completely reasonable to want both a tulpa and some relations with other people!

As for his reasons for liking this girl, sure, they are a bit shallow and childish, but why is that so infuriating to you? He has even acknowledged that they are not the best reasons, but well damn, I guess that's just not enough, you need to consistently criticize him about for no reason. I mean come on! By now, any lesson that he might have learned from your scolding is old and repeated, and that just makes him all the more likely to ignore it. Quite honestly, the reasons aren't terrible. She is pretty, that's a plus, she shares some interests in games (a point you very cleverly decide to never mention), that's a plus, she seems friendlier than other people, that's yet another plus. Plus plus plus, sure they don't say much about her actual character but people don't just display that for the public to see. That's the whole point of getting to know someone, its figuring out whether you actually like them (in a platonic or romantic way). So say this person turns out to be a neo nazi who kicks puppies and likes to catch and fry up endangered species for fun; "Well, guess THAT was a mistake, outward appearances sure can be decieving. Oh well, better luck next time,". Simple as that! He's not trying to make some life-long connection with ONLY THIS ONE GIRL FOR EVER AND EVER AND NOBODY ELSE CAN EVER DO, he is just interested in someone he met in a store! Hell, from what I can tell he would be okay if this doesn't get much past friendship, he just feels like she would be a nice friend. Just for gods' sakes, let him have his "wishful girlfriend thoughts" if he wants to, he never asked for your help.

Enny:
I'd kinda consider what I'm trying to do as gradual as I can get it without taking years. There's this guy that works at an FYE, I kinda know. Some friends and I walk through, checking out the anime stuff, and looking over pony merch every week or two. Last thing I remember, he said something along "Hey guys, we've got some new pony stuff in the back.", and he asked about some of the interest, and he's a lot more friendly than he used to be. Still don't have his name, cause I'm just awful at checking, but he's gone from "can I help you?" To "oh, hey you guys, doing good?" Over a gradual course, no real effort put into it.

I do like the girl. As far as appearance, and the way she handles herself in a social environment goes, I like her a lot. Just taking it easy, and talking a bit next time I go, and the time after that.. I kinda think that's a reasonable kinda gradual, but the whole "Subjectivity" thing applies there, I guess.

I'm not trying to take you hostilely, but you're really good at unintentionally seeming condescending, and rude I guess. Just seems like you're saying any manner of getting to know a girl I like less than knowing her for a long-ass time, building up conversation bit by bit, is unreasonable, or at least, wishful thinking. Hoping anyone will respond positively to you, is in itself, wishful thinking. Just feels like a really negative thing, the way I'm interpreting it here.

Enny:
By unintentional, I mean seeming like a dick, when you're not inherently trying to seem like aforementioned dick. And know-it-all-ish. But hell, if that's what your going for..

Opinions opinions, though. 'F I can figure out how to get to know this gal before I approach her trying to get to know her, I'll be sure and give you some money, or something, though.

Now for all fuck's sake, Septimus was right about one thing for certain; didn't ask for advice. Was just trying to fill in my mentioning of Tupper speak as much as I possibly could, just telling one of the least important things we'd discussed that night. So let's shut up, and let me focus on figuring out what I'm gonna do - aside from Fede's pink noise junk.

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