Author Topic: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]  (Read 10722 times)

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #60 on: April 13, 2025, 05:09:09 PM »
Obviously, but that's harder than I thought.
There's a narrow gap between not enough weight meaning a hilarious amount of reps to exhaustion and quick recovery and too much weight with risk of injury or sheer inability to lift it at all.
Seriously, 2 consecutive days at the gym for 2h with the result of being able to lift more in the end than the beginning is odd. Simply ran out of time. No exhaustion, no soreness.

Hiked 25km on Saturday without much stopping. Haven't done this for a year or so. The body took it reasonably well but is literally butthurt now. I rushed host to the point of literally running uphill. We were chased by an elderly couple with Nordic Walking sticks that went exactly our speed. They were freaking fast. Good thing they took a different path or we would have been stuck with them for most of the tour.

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #61 on: April 13, 2025, 05:19:50 PM »
>There's a narrow gap between not enough weight meaning a hilarious amount of reps to exhaustion and quick recovery and too much weight with risk of injury or sheer inability to lift it at all.

Bruh, okay, but no. Not lifting at all vs too light, I can totally see that if like you go from 10kg to 20kg, but 10 to 11 no, but it will be something like 10-20% that I agree with. If you're already low like 40 and the next step is 50, yeah I can see that. It won't hurt you though.


Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #62 on: April 14, 2025, 06:25:56 AM »
this.
i have no idea what Alice is doing but i am sure its weird. like everything she does.

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #63 on: April 15, 2025, 02:07:48 PM »
Yes, 10kg increments. That's how it is on many machines at higher weights. Still the line between too light and too much is unexpectedly slim. Varies from day too day too. I'm still not sure what to do to produce soreness. Pull-Push-Legs 3 times a week 2h only allows for 6 sets of each exercise once. That's obviously a joke. But if I do more of an exercise I gotta skip others entirely. I already push host to max speed with minimal pauses.

Upping weight from the start and making larger increments does work but for soreness I gotta make him do exercises at least 2x the 6 sets. 3x the same exercise distributed over the gym session works. But we'd need to go at least 3h 3x per week which is not really manageable, at least not in summer.

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #64 on: April 15, 2025, 02:37:30 PM »
What you're saying sounds great, keep it up. Being sore isn't everything, it's just one thing you can use to recognize that gains are being made. Being sore in the muscles specifically, a little soreness in the joints isn't necessarily bad but that really shouldn't happen. Soreness in the muscles indicates something like damage or swelling that will signal the muscles to grow more to prevent that from happening just like the pain from acid build up, the burn, will indicate the circulation isn't enough to keep up with the capacity of the muscles and will trigger more vessels to form ideally.

I am not a medical scientist so take that with a grain of salt, but in my experience, both muscle soreness and the burn tend to decrease faster than even 4 days a week can keep up with, so then you have to change up the exercises.

Also, you do want to touch everything at least once a cycle but that doesn't mean you can't double up and concentrate on others.

2 hours plus 30 minutes of cardio or so, even three days a week isn't enough to make quick gains in everything but clearly it's enough to make quick gains in weak things and if concentrated on, anything, a fewthings even.

I have been seeing week over week gains in shoulders and a few other things like triceps by 10-20% real gains with good form, that's insane for going only 2 days a week and that's without any supplements other than vitamins and amino loaded protein powder pre-workout, neither of which do anything if your diet is already up to par. I saw no difference when I skip these or before and aftera run. I'm trying to avoid anything you can't just get with diet and I'm eating beef almost daily.

The key is push till you can't push even at 50-75% obviously if you can do 100 you missed something, it's too light. If one setting you can do 100 and the next notch up you can't do 1 that means your equipment sucks and you need to do something else. There's a dozen ways to exercise any one muscle group, this might be too boring to think about but find an alternative. It's fun for me.

The goal isn't to look like Dave Bautista, that bro is 240lbs, but if you are 240lbs then maybe. But no one should honestly weigh 240lbs unless they want to devote their life to weightlifting and all the issues that go with keeping that unnecessary weight.



The goal should be to be maximally healthy at a healthy weight to prevent age related skelital/muscular health issues associated with being a soy boi or big chungas.

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #65 on: April 16, 2025, 01:27:42 PM »
I had to cut calories, my weight was creeping up. I need to go back to taking my weight every day.

When I'm on a diet, I always get cramps too, I wish I knew what I was missing. I do take vitamins.

Feeling great though. My minimum food (1300 cal) is probably by comparison a much better diet than my normal diet (2200 cal).

I like the 1300 calorie diet, 2 meals a day, only a 500 cal lunch and 800 cal dinner. Way better than 1800 cal diet with 600 cal meals. I get down faster and it feels better. 1800 is still torture, why prolonge it?

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #66 on: April 16, 2025, 05:32:01 PM »
I had to cut calories, my weight was creeping up. I need to go back to taking my weight every day.
Same happens here.
Damn BodyOS and its eating habits. I feel it got a lot to do with free time and being at home. Whenever we're busy and somewhere out there's literally no time to eat. But being at home brings the opportunity to eat constantly. The fridge is full. Gotta buy less. But now's Easter, only opportunity to really eat sweets aside from Christmas Season because Famliy festivities. I'm probably gonna order host to take another intermittent fasting session with 600kcal per day afterwards. It will be necessary.

When I'm on a diet, I always get cramps too, I wish I knew what I was missing. I do take vitamins.
Lack of magnesium, calcium, water are the usual suspects but cramps can be weird. It's often hard to determine the source. Never have those luckily.

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #67 on: April 16, 2025, 06:06:17 PM »
Whatever it is, milk fixes it immediately but temporarily and beef keeps it away after a few hours. So obviously something. No deficiency ever shows up on blood tests. I only ever had high iron.

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #68 on: Yesterday at 04:30:35 AM »
the gym gramps has disappeared i wonder if he died but i dont wanna ask

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #69 on: Yesterday at 07:29:24 AM »
There's an old guy at my gym, he can't stand up straight, he stands at a 60 degree bend. He's been going to this gym as long as I have, he's there almost every time I am and he never gained anything as far as I can tell, he looks just as weak as ever and just as old as ever. Imaging this guy had to be 40-50 when I started and it's been over a decade. I started from a 160-170lb guy with swimmers' muscles because I had only done light weights before then, that was the time before I trained heavily. I could do unlimited sit-ups, a lot of pull ups and unlimited pushups though so I was no weakling, literally didn't have to stop. I could also climb a rope/pole just with my arms and my legs to stabilize only. I did 200 pushups/sit-ups every night and I had a 20 minute routine after that with a single cable/pully that I attached to a wall. I was strong though. It was crazy how thin I was at 170 when at 210 I start to look chunky.

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #70 on: Yesterday at 10:57:55 AM »
Same at the gym here. There are people who are there without exception when we come and we come at completely different times. Some are beasts and some look absolute garbage and are weaker than host.

I'm afraid we're also on this path. Body looks significantly better than a year ago but this significance is marginal.
In the end working out doesn't lead to muscle growth. Hormone release leads to muscle growth. And if this isn't triggered you can work yourself to death without any result. Certainly that's different for everyone and some just havve bad luck  in the genetic lottery.

I already said one of our main issues probably is being too careful. We just recently found out the body can lift twice as much than previously thought after a proper warm-up. So we gotta cut down on exercise types to do the same exercise twice or three times a set of 6 with 15-12-10-8-6-4 reps. In consecutive runs going down to 10-10-10-8-8-8 or something with heavier weight.

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #71 on: Yesterday at 01:38:22 PM »
Don't give me this "ew genetics" bullshit, you remind me of that self-defeating shit Lumi spouted on tulpa.info

Grow a pair and push yourself bruh!

Yes, it's all about genetics. Of you were born with balls, you're a man, so work like a man.

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #72 on: Yesterday at 02:11:08 PM »
Hey, I'm not a man!



I may be a tupper and a monster - but I certainly am not a man! Is Ashley a man?
I also don't work out at at the gym. I just give orders.
Hmm, maybe I should?

And I didn't mean it that way. But seeing certain people look so shit after going to the gym more than us it makes me think. Mostly how to avoid ending up like that. Obviously it's possible to exercise a lot without achieving anything. Just like studying without learning anything. Not applying enough weight certainly was a mistake. But I only figured it out after doing exercises over and over again that the body could lift more at a second round of sets.

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #73 on: Yesterday at 07:54:54 PM »
Bruh, the men are talking.

[Ashley] Lol, yeah Alice, this thread is for the bodies' sake.