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General Discussion / Re: Eye-Bo, the Fartcular Fitness Program!
« on: October 23, 2013, 05:31:12 PM »
Quote from: Fede on October 23, 2013, 09:11:40 AM
If you could somehow manage to create a setup where you can still see the flashes while lying down, you can try doing that hypnagogic visualisation technique where you consciously tell yourself that you're awake until the hallucinative vividness becomes less chaotic and more controllable. I mean, if you feel like experimenting, anyway. Experimenting is usually fun.

Experimenting is always good, I guess I could always give it a shot. I'm still in a stage where i'm getting used to visualizations though, they always surprise me by how vivid and yet unrealistic they are. Should've daydreamed more as a kid.

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General Discussion / Re: Eye-Bo, the Ocular Fitness Program!
« on: October 23, 2013, 09:00:08 AM »
Oh, my bad. Must've missed it. Yes, I was sitting down. When I lie down I'm afraid I'll fall asleep with the laptop on my lap, and drop it in my sleep-kungfu.

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General Discussion / Re: Eye-Bo, the Ocular Fitness Program!
« on: October 23, 2013, 08:41:41 AM »
I guess I'll just reply to that. The session itself was nice, the descending version really helped me go from a more alert state to a relaxed one(as opposed to ascending and constant, which i've also tried) and throughout the session i felt myself zoning out quite a bit, i even got one vivid hallucination of someone opening my door and walking into my room, but i'm so not used to visualizing that i physically got up to react to that at the time. Which was kinda lame, but it happened.

Anyhow, hearing her was easier, yes. Mindvoice sounded clearer, not only hers but also my own, the repetitive sounds and flashing turned into somewhat of a blur for me after a while, up to the point where i wasn't "hearing" the isochronics anymore (more like ignoring them) and my eyes looked like a canvas of white as opposed to strobe flashing. That's what she meant with the "disconnecting from the senses". After I got into that state i got a few second of visualization every 5-10 minutes or so, which is better than average for me.

Hallucinations didn't kick in until after the session. I listened to the entire tape, and afterwards my room looked really fuzzy, and my windows seemed to "wobble" (can't find a better word for this) which was like a visual variant of the metallic way everything sounded after listening to Clairvoyant Focus. Then I lied down and was still talking to Ea, and sometimes in between the mindvoice conversations I'd hear whispers beside me not saying anything I could really understand. But mind you, it was also raining softly. At some point they did get pretty loud though, it sorta freaked me out at first but Ea reminded me it was probably just to Eye-Bo and I cooled off.

After some more talking, I was pretty relaxed and at one point I could clearly hear one of Ea's sentences "out loud", which also immediately shocked me awake, and after that it was just back to mindvoice and nothing else happened.

Oh, last thing, sometimes during Eye-Bo I'd open my eyes due to unexpectedly visualizing, and i'd see a shadow of someone standing beside me for a split second.

Hope this means something for you, seriously great work man. I haven't had results this fast from any other entrainment tape so far.

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Questions and Answers / Re: I don't know how to tulpafart and it feels like a chore to me at this point
« on: October 22, 2013, 06:01:29 AM »
Quote from: Fede on October 17, 2013, 04:42:28 PM
In the case of guided possession, the possession itself is a collaborative effort between you and the tupper where you aim the limbs and the tupper sends impulses that gradually become stronger. Parallel processing, at least at some level, is pretty much a requisite.

What you do is you take a limb like, say, your hand, and tell your tupper to bend one of the fingers. Assuming your tupper is cooperative, you'll either feel a slightly tickling impulse or otherwise some sort of "urge" to bend the finger. What you do here is amplify the force of that impulse. Don't overdo it; just amplify it enough to bend the finger a bit. You're not supposed to take control of the finger or willingly bend it the way you normally would when not practicing possession. The impulse is supposed to be the driving force. As you do this more and more over time, you won't have to amplify the force of the impulses as much and the tupper will be able to handle the stuff by itself. Eventually, you can train things like the tupper sending impulses to aim the limbs so you won't have to do that, either.

This is what I do, and it works. I mostly practice this while playing games or something, because that's where I can notice the differences between me and my tulpa. What made me sure of this working were the few times where I wasn't doing anything to move my limbs at all (either not focusing on them or even focusing on something other than the game) and they were still moving. It was kinda freaky, especially since the first time it actually cost me some effort to make my arms do what I was telling them to do, but also a great sign of progress. Fede may over-advertise his methods sometimes but I did similar things and they work for me.

I agree with what's been said about worrying or expecting some milestone thing to happen being pointless. I believe that, like people, tuppers grow over time, and especially if you're always keeping track of said growth you won't notice much difference from before unless you actually keep track of your progress from day 1 and read back after, say, 6 months or so.

Quote from: Makogeddon on October 18, 2013, 05:40:46 PM
You're trying to make sure the same thing that happened to me last time doesn't happen again as a result of worrying over the authenticity of responses, right? That's probably a legitimate concern, but the responses are going to feel more and more authentic as time goes on, aren't they?
Define "authentic". I noticed people often expect something extremely unnatural and foreign
from their tulpa, while they're still a part of your brain. By the time you'll be doing aural imposition, you'll probably be so used to their mindvoice that only the fact you're hallucinating a voice will feel strange, not the responses themselves. Expecting them to feel too foreign will only result in doubt and disappointment, for both you and your tulpa, at least the way I see it.

It's like Fede said man, just roll with it and see what happens. If you keep practicing, you'll eventually make progress - I believe that's something we all can agree on.

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You're telling me that I'm focusing too much over an arbitrary indicator of tulpa realness (the alien voice feeling) when I shouldn't worry about making progress at all and instead just have fun with it, with the progress coming naturally in the background.

I wrote something about this in another thread.

Quote from: 'Zero'
I feel as though proving the tulpa's sentience seems to be more of a point of focus of tulpaforcers than actually spending time with them and having fun, which is why we make them in the first place, right? If you're gonna treat them as some scientific experiment, you might as well not make them. Tulpas are your friends, not lab rats. I don't disagree with a little experimentation to sate the curiosity, but your friendship with them should always come first, and all the other sciency progress crap second.

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Off-Topic / Re: MUSIC
« on: October 22, 2013, 04:22:57 AM »
I'm still trying to figure out whether your avatar is one of those subliminal two-images-in-one things or you just like big noses.

Also, I'll try that. I have enough DAW's to mess around with, only problem will be compressing the bitrate without changing it and have Ea scold my ass to death.

Also, I suck at subaccounts.

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Off-Topic / Re: Anime
« on: October 18, 2013, 07:18:09 AM »
Quote from: intelhunter on October 16, 2013, 04:15:40 PM
and chesthair. that shit does not belong on girls.

Intel what kind of gross women are you socializing with?
Is this even a thing?

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Off-Topic / Re: Anime
« on: October 15, 2013, 10:53:12 AM »
Hanekawa a slut catgirl.

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Off-Topic / Re: Art General
« on: October 15, 2013, 10:50:23 AM »
ur stooped sends

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Off-Topic / Re: Introductions
« on: October 14, 2013, 10:50:04 PM »
Quote from: Pentium on October 10, 2013, 12:21:58 AM
I am a subaccount. Deal with it.

Quote from: Pentium on October 10, 2013, 12:21:58 AM
I am a subaccount. Deal with it.

Quote from: Pentium on October 10, 2013, 12:21:58 AM
I am a subaccount. Deal with it.

Quote from: Pentium on October 10, 2013, 12:21:58 AM
I am a subaccount.



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Off-Topic / Re: Anime
« on: October 14, 2013, 05:44:15 PM »
Quote from: intelhunter on October 14, 2013, 01:08:09 AM
Hell yes Chuunibyou. I approve. I am currently watching Nekomonotagari. Going to watch the whole seacond season when it is out.

You know what, I didn't like Nekomono so much. Bake and Nisemono are amazing though. So far the first arc of Monogatari SS looks boring as fuck because Hanekawa is the most retarded character ever so I'm hoping the next one will be better.

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Off-Topic / Re: MUSIC
« on: October 13, 2013, 10:19:53 PM »
Quote from: Fede on October 10, 2013, 12:24:08 AM
And the reason I put it at 192 kbps is because, thanks to my super duper tone-crafting skills, I looked for the bitrate at which the square waves would remain more or less intact and not suffer audible or even visible damage. 192 kbps was that bitrate.

Not exactly related but this reminded me - do you happen to know how to compress a 320kbps mp3 to 192kbps without losing any audible quality? I've done it before, and I completely forgot how to. Tried it a few days back and raped a song so hard it pressed charges.

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Off-Topic / Re: Anime
« on: October 13, 2013, 10:07:34 PM »
Of course intel started an anime thread.

Quote from: MC on October 13, 2013, 02:36:23 PM
While you're at it, watch Attack on titan. And Mirai nikki.
<3
Though I couldn't help but think Redial was made specifically for homosexuals.

Also the whole Monogatari series. If you haven't watched that you're a weeapleb.

My all-time favourite has to be Fate/Zero, though that makes way less sense without reading the Fate/stay night VN first. One of the only animes that I have zero complaints about and enjoyed from the beginning till the end.
inb4 lame puns

I have nothing to watch right now but was thinking of Chuunibyou, that's the one with the cute heterochromic girl with the eyepatch right?


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General Discussion / Re: Absence of Disbelief or Schrödinger's Tulpa
« on: October 05, 2013, 12:19:52 AM »
Quote from: Kiahdaj on October 04, 2013, 06:37:17 PM
Some quality words there, Sands.
I think it's fair to say I've thought the same thing for a while; just hadn't worded it quite that way.

Anyway, I think these words should be spread around more. It's definitely something people should think about, as it could certainly avoid many problems, for many people. That, and I don't really see any down-side to this point of view.

All of my agree. I couldn't have worded it better. People are always so worried and confused about parroting, while (especially if you take Fede's method into account) it doesn't really matter. Even if you are parroting at first, as long as you keep consistently forcing, your tulpa will eventually become sentient. And even if it were the case that tulpas aren't really sentient and are just people who train themselves to fake a second personality that's indistinguishable from a real person, then wouldn't that be the same as them being real? If your tulpa can surprise you, make you think about things, tell you off when you did something stupid and congratulate you when you did something wise, and most importantly be there with you and for you, if they can do all those things, regardless of being truly conscious or not, does it really matter? Do we really have to prove that our tulpa is conscious, even if their behavior makes it pretty damn clear that they are?

I feel as though proving the tulpa's sentience seems to be more of a point of focus of tulpaforcers than actually spending time with them and having fun, which is why we make them in the first place, right? If you're gonna treat them as some scientific experiment, you might as well not make them. Tulpas are your friends, not lab rats. I don't disagree with a little experimentation to sate the curiosity, but your friendship with them should always come first, and all the other sciency crap second.

I'm glad you addressed this problem the way you did, I only wish more people would read this.

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Tulpa Diaries / Re: MC and the fluffies
« on: October 04, 2013, 01:58:03 AM »
Quote from: MegaBusta on October 03, 2013, 01:04:46 PM
:3

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Off-Topic / Re: MUSIC
« on: October 02, 2013, 01:18:25 PM »
flac is just a placebo
there's a difference between flac and mp3 (320kbps) in quality, yeah, but you can barely hear it unless you got some really decent headphones that probably cost you more than they're worth, or ears so sensitive you can hear a mosquito fapping to your neighbors For listening purposes, anything other than 320kbps mp3 is pointless and will take up much more space than needed. Flac's good for when you're watching 720/1080p stuff or something. Not an expert in the field but I've found it a pretty useless audio format listening-wise.

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