15/10, better than Fede's

I wouldn't use petty, but I guess that's cause I'm the one going through this for the first time, so eh. I'll shush up for now.

Yeah, I'm actually in the middle of downloading that pink noise so I can try out your exercise. Hope it works out 'n stuff.

Wow. Still not hostile, and I even said "I'll shush up for now", in what was CLEARLY a FAILED attempt, to divert attention. Ain't that somethin'? But I guess the lack of a specific "okay, done here guys, let's all stop", was too much to keep it from continuing. Cough, Sands.

Gals are gals, guys are guys. Girls have another hole, but I honestly, personally, have yet to meet a girl that's essentially a guy with another hole. Respectively. Still, acknowledged, and I gave a harmless quip on what I thought of it, then you responded with another bit that wasn't anything for fite'n, then I had..

I guess. Idunno, I'm really trying to not overthink this stuff. Gonna try my luck on a female for the first time ever, and since I don't really know any women well enough to base interest on personality anyway.. Can't be condemned, have to start somewhere. Imean, may as well befriend one that at least /seems/ nice, and will approach me to ask if she can help, unlike most store peoples who glance at me, and ask the same while avoiding eye contact. Really appreciate that, even if it's a small thing. Act or not.

Idunno, like said, trying not to overthink it. I just need some money to go buy a game, so I can see if she's sociable, is she is, isn't she isn't.

Cause ya know. As I've come to find, actually asking what's nearing 12 of my Internet buds, liking someone I've not met is painfully average for a human, and yes, I do have to start somewhere.

But ya know, kept getting pressed, when there honestly wasn't anything to fight. Acknowledged all points, fairly responded in non hostile tones, not challenging not disagreeing with anyone, but whatever.

I did get more on the offensive somewhere down, acknowledged, but the redundancy by this point was a bit too much for me wee liddle heart. Whatever, make another post if you will, I'm done here.

You don't gotta be the one swearing to be really irritating, and "come accross as rude".

I think the main thing that's getting me here, is how you've been ending your points in things like, "but if you see it that way, then so be it", and generally using that as a crutch in other areas of your points. (Foreseeing my use of the word crutch to be an opinion, guys)

I can respect the fuck out of your opinions, and WOULD, if you were the kinda guy that, instead of seeming like everything anyone said doesn't remotely affect you, because you view everything as subjectivity, and opinion, on the mind of the speaker. If you would maybe.. "Oh, well I don't personally think I'm a dick, but I'll take what you said into consideration, and try to SEEM like less of a condescending dickcocker (sorry, just love the word. So powerful.)"

Like when Sands posted what he did a while back, I didn't try and thoroughly destroy what he was trying to say, or force why I thought he was wrong, or anything. He said something about how the girl was just a guy with another hole. Not exactly the whole picture, but yeah. I said, "I suppose", and mentioned how I knew of plenty of men prettier that most girls. So yeah, I figured it was completely viable. Only thing for me is that, while I don't generally care for anything but personality on say, a friend, I've always considered any possible future I'd have with another person, to be with a chick. Just preference. I like the way they sound..  So easy on the ears.. And where a guy could have that voice, and even a similar body structure, it just might not feel the same, and as well as that, we actually don't have gay people like that in Arkansas. Or at least of what I've seen. So a girl would be ideal for me, and I do respect what Sands said.

But you probably won't, whatever. I'm not really new to the Internet. I don't generally take rudeness, I don't take seemingly condescending people, seriously, because they're: A, just trolling, or: B, not trying to come accross that way, and will say, "oh, sorry man, should have worded that differently haha". Or C, in which case they're just very angry people, and/or justified in everything they're saying.

But it really doesn't seem like you're any of those. If they're all opinions, then justifiability shouldn't even be in the dictionary for you. All just a matter of perspective, provide what you can to back it up, it's still just an opinion, and as such, doesn't have to be considered. Which it doesn't seem you do. You analyze, not consider.

Your opinion is respected. I don't know how it seems, but I know anything regarding this gal IS a long shot. I think I have as much a chance as most, though, and would like to: approach her is step one. Ask about whatever game I'm buying would be step two. Get her name is step three. Then acquaintances, and friends possibly next time I visit. Just about as gradually work my way up as I can, not having known her for ages beforehand.

What isn't respected is how, where I suppose in you saying chances are low, the present chance of success is still implied, you haven't so much as suggested that it's still possible. "It's not likely, but whatever, still possible". Cause imean, it is. Fuck, I've been talking to my brother's girlfriend about it for an hour or two now, and from what I'm getting, it's a perfectly reasonable situation, that can go either way.

Even if it's probably one of those half and half things, even just befriending her is still a win. Maybe I speak and she thinks I'm easy to talk to, maybe I approach her and I look a bit too weird for her, maybe she's one of those people, where as soon as she's on a topic she likes, it seems like she's just in a trance of talking, and we make friends. About anything can happen, good or bad, but it doesn't seem like you think that's possible. Just come across as a really negative person.

Idunno, you clearly care to some degree, about what I decide to think here being based on your "opinions", because you could have easily, two posts in, said something like "Well, I don't agree, but it's your opinion (That word you love so much)"

Or, of course, I'd have gladly stopped arguing a while back, if I'd just gotten some rational feedback. Rational is taking everything said into consideration, not analyzation, and forming a reasonable, and unbiased response. Again, everything you've said so far, but with the other side of the coin on it, would have been a lot easier to accept.

Cause dear hell, I've acknowledged throughout this whole argument that it can go either way. But gosh, it feels like I'm being condemned for being a bit silly towards the first female in a very long while, if not ever that I've thought about relatively excessively. And yes, on unfair terms, with an unfair "talking at"

A conversation, even a debate, takes at least two. You're not talking with me. I'm not even talking with you. You're talking AT me, and I'm talking to myself. You're looking at what I'm saying, and it seems like the first thought that runs through your head is "well now, how do I use this to further my point?"

No need to even consider mine. Don't say you are either. Maybe when it feels like you're talking to me, you can pull off saying that you are, but as is, you're not, and that's not an opinion. That's clear as day in the way you're writing, and the way you're talking at me.

Fuck, maybe you are, you're just not making it apparent. That might help, brah.


Idunno where I was going with this. Idunno if you're not generally like this in real life, or if you actually are the Neckbeard kinda guy who enjoys speaking like you do. I've had the misfortune of knowing so many, and I'm not kidding when I say, yes, the way you speak feels exactly like that of a fedora warrior. The inherent superiority, and assumed (by the writer, mind you) intelligence in what is being written on your part, gives me flashbacks to the days of my modding a pony chat site. You may or may not be a total Neckbeard, or even a bad guy off of the web, but please live on knowing that was one of the first things that popped into my head when I got to know you (generally speaking). Don't say anything about it, just let it simmer, and try and not seem like that. Cause that's definitely not who anyone wants to be, or come across as.

Idunno what else to say. I don't think you're an awful guy, Fede. You've been a big help for me since I had my little Crisis with Miri when I started out here, if only cause you took the time to leave fedeback (haha, that was a joke). Probably done other stuff, but the main thing that's kept me going has been everyone but Megabusta's feedback. But whatever. Idunno. This place is kinda ruined for me, now. Aside from all this, I kinda just don't know what to do anymore. The pink noise stuff isn't doing anything, after a couple days' use, and I'm not sure what else to try. So meh. Unless I can think of something else to do, and post, I'm probably done here.

By unintentional, I mean seeming like a dick, when you're not inherently trying to seem like aforementioned dick. And know-it-all-ish. But hell, if that's what your going for..

Opinions opinions, though. 'F I can figure out how to get to know this gal before I approach her trying to get to know her, I'll be sure and give you some money, or something, though.

Now for all fuck's sake, Septimus was right about one thing for certain; didn't ask for advice. Was just trying to fill in my mentioning of Tupper speak as much as I possibly could, just telling one of the least important things we'd discussed that night. So let's shut up, and let me focus on figuring out what I'm gonna do - aside from Fede's pink noise junk.

Did edit it out, cause idunno, felt kinda silly to say. It's not my situation necessarily, it's the way you worded that last post. Imean, if you didn't strike me as one before, you kinda seemed.. Idunno what the word is, really off for that last one. Seems like you just generally dislike that kinda relationship, and in discouraging it, in favor of Tulpa relationship, which is cool and all, still love, you really kinda came off as a.. What's the word, Neckbeard doesn't feel right, but a friend who I've been trying to get in around here said something along the lines of, or more so in quoting, "like... is he actively discouraging meeting other people? I don't understand..."

That just killed me. It seems like you're about as antisocial as it gets, whether you're trying to come across that way or not. So yeah, Idunno, I've been asking people in happy relationships for advice a bit of today, and they seem to be a lot better at giving it than you, currently deemed level two Neckbeard, says I. Course, this just pertains to anything regarding being social, or doing things in the real world, I'm still happy to take suggestions elsewhere.

EDIT: And god damn it, okay, I kinda just wanna know what's wrong with liking some gal I've only seen seven or eight times, talked to once or twice. Not much, but for the third fukn time, gotta start somewhere, right? I don't know specifically what it is about her, but I do like her a good bit, yeah. And what the hell was that about the club, a couple posts back? Common ground? I know damn well our taste in games is similar, and that at least is something. Not sure why a club seems more viable to you. It kinda seems like, after thinking back on that, you're kinda just adamant on emphasizing how stupid this is, on my part. It's silly, but I don't think a crush is really stupid, by any means. GameStop might not be ideal, but hey, she's there, I can ask what she recommends, and I can certainly carry a conversation once me and whoever else are on the same page. Hell, yeah, it's her job to talk about them, but I doubt it can be awful, considering how she doesn't seem so broken as a lot of employees are, in various stores, and manages to ask if she can help like, three times per visit. As stated somewhere back there, a first name basis would be great. Definitely a start. I'm kinda starting to think it's you who doesn't really get how becoming friends with someone works. Ya talk. Then you got a name. Then you talk more. Gets more comfortable. Friends.

If I even wanna try risking that by asking her out or something after that point, then I will, but If I feel like I shouldn't, or should wait, or whatever, I won't.

Well, if you just can not balance the writing, with the focusing on your Tupper, then I guess it would be. I was able to keep her in mind, while writing what I had to narrate, which wound up putting forth a lot more time into narration than I got just saying little bits any time I could remember her, but if ya can't do that, ohwell.

It took longer to get things written down, but the time spent helped.

I guess when I say building on, it's in the area of just focusing on it, getting it more distinct. Just getting a better feel and being able to identify it more easily. Or something. Idunno, I'm sorry, watching the Doctor Who Chrissy special, lemme try and get these thoughts out correctly.

The more you pay attention to it, and learn it, the bigger and more distinct it feels and stuff. I think there was something about a Tulpa's essence, somewhere a while back that I never read. I guess it's somewhere in that area. Or something.