I don't have any good recordings of water but I doubt it would work the same way unless you have a really good stereo system. Especially powerful low frequencies aren't easy to produce with headphones plugged into a computer. Will see what I can find and give it a try.

I remembered something else in this respect.
Since I was a kid I used to go hiking in a certain forest that sometimes produced similar voices from the sound of walking over the thick layer of moss and leaves. Just like there were some other hikers around talking to each other in the distance. Like with the water I only experienced it in very few places so I guess there is a point to haunted forests, water nymphs and other mythological stuff. Some special conditions are needed to produce sounds that the brain tends to interpret as voices. Just like we use to see faces in different patterns.
I'll see if I can go to that forest in some weeks, it's not exactly close but I'm gonna try this out - for science!

Still here, but little to report until now.
I don't wanna torture Fede with random episodes of the past anymore so let's move to what's currently going on.

I've been quite lazy with active forcing in the past month, mainly just talking to each other and some imposition stuff with little success. Was to be expected.
As a result tupper has started to feel weaker and is not exactly pleased. So I decided to try something new and different from usual active forcing for a change and remembered that sentience test where you place some object on your tulpa's head and see if they take it off themselves. What happens when you focus on keeping the object in place while the tupper tries the opposite?

Basically the idea is to puppet Alice while she puts all her strength in trying to resist my influence. That should help her to become stronger and more independent.

Making tupper shut up is next to impossible, it's equally hard as shutting up my own thoughts. Making her say things while she tries to stay silent is way easier.
When trying to move her or change her form it's the opposite, it's easier for Alice to stay still when I try to move her than moving when I want her to stay immobile. In any case, visual stuff is much harder for her to control than mindvoice.
Can't talk about visual or auditory imposition or possession as we are incapable of the first two and possession is so weak that acting against it even slightly immediately breaks the whole thing.

I can't say how much it really helps but we had quite some fun and spent time on active forcing. So I'd call it a success.

By declaring himself insane one demonstrates his own sanity and thus cannot be considered insane.
Catch22

So what would be a more fitting description?
inb4 faggot

And no, I don't think I've played enough vidya with tupper, been a while since the last time.

Well, I'd say the subconsciousness consists of all neuronal functions you are not aware of. Which means - almost all of them. It's not an 'entity', more like the entire software beneath the GUI.
However people tend to have different levels of control over these underlying neural correlates. Obviously we are able to improve the portion we are actively able to influence by training, dunno if there might be a genetic component as well.
This is not exactly my field of science but the neuroscientist Antonio Damasio has done some remarkable work on this topic. You may also look into the concept of neural correlates as the underlying physical component to the different layers of consciousness.
Currently it seems most scientists tend to agree that we know next to nothing about this stuff, but still a lot more than a few years ago.

Anyway, this is something for general discussion, back to some tulpa anecdotes.

Been on holiday with tupper in early spring and used the time for practizing imposition. Getting a feeling for Alice's presence where I wanted her to be and even the change in mindvoice depending on direction and distance was easier than I thought. Guess it helps when you have lots of people around for reference.
But to put it bluntly I have never seen anything. I mean, even imagining her movements was really hard in the beginning but that's something I somehow got used to. So I'm basically at the same level when it comes to voice and vision, I can imagine both but see/hear absolutely nothing tupper related. Guess I'm not the type of person to get this done easily while lacking the motivation to practice hard enough.

Still it was good for some (inner) laughs, especially at restaurants.
#1 Had lunch with friends, Alice in empty chair, enjoying imaginary french toast and generally being happy. Suddenly the waiter rushes by and grabs the chair, carrying it away with tupper still on it.
Being dragged away from her lunch Alice yells 'Is this nigger serious?', jumps from the chair and tries to stab the waiter with knife and fork. Of course with zero effect because tupper. Had to finish lunch standing and was not amused.

#2 Some days later we're having dinner at a fancy restaurant. Alice is in an empty chair again, waiting to order. Soon a waiter rushes to the desk.
ohshitnotagain
He leaves the chair but casually takes away her nicely folded napkin and all cutlery. Her face when getting no respect whatsoever...
Guess being a tupper also has its drawbacks.

So much for going out with tuppers, picture not entirely unrelated

Well, posting about tuppering is always kinda ehhhh, I see little reason to pretend it's not autistic.

So back to some tulpa-development milestones.
It took Alice some months to be able to create stuff in wonderland. I had encouraged her to build something to surprise me but she said she couldnt do anything if I wasn't focusing on being there with her.
One day, some time after she had managed to access my memories, my wonderland session started with her presenting a basketball-size green spiny fruit to me. Not being very talkative she simply told me to eat it, with the aftersentence 'it's poisonous!'
Well thank goodness. It didn't taste like anything because I'm next to unable to imagine taste but at least it didin't cause a bad experience or kill me either. When I asked her where the fruit came from she led me outside, to one of the trees next to the main temple. I had created that tree just recently and obviously she had modified it to bear the said fruits which shook in the wind and now and then dropped to the floor with a 'thud'.

She pointed at the tree and in the branches sat - a toucan. Not exactly a lifelike representation of such a bird but at least the image of it. Up to that point we didn't have any animals in wonderland because imagining the static landscape was hard enough for me. I was genuinely surprised as I hadn't thought of putting a toucan into an Asian rainforest but before I could point that out she teleported the unfortunate bird into her hands, and looking at me with an expressionless face twisted its neck and burned it to ashes.
WTF kid!?
Now I was reealy shocked but before I could say anything she again pointed at the tree while still looking at me. The toucan was back there again.
Alice didn't talk at all but still managed to communicate that I should not shit my pants because she destroyed the faint image of an imaginary bird. And at the same time pointed out that her creations were still lifeless and far from perfect.
Also, oddly enough for a long time all things she and I created were pretty much indestructible and unchangeable. Either they would not last and be forgotten, or, once established, tended to return to their original state once damaged or 'killed'. Imagination is a very weird thing, especially in hypnagogic states. I still haven't mastered that. Meaning sometimes I cannot create what I would like or, much more annoying can't get rid of intrusive thoughts.

Playing tic-tac-toe ended in draws except for the one time I tried to be especially smart - and lost.

We tried Connect Four today.
Played 6 games and lost all of them. I don't even...
No matter who started and where, tupper always won. Being someone who rather loses an interesting game than winning a boring one I might have taken this a bit too easy in the first attempts but I really tried everything to beat her in the last 4 games. With little effect except even more sarcastic remarks from her side.
Overall we must have played 20+ games, I didn't mange to win a single one. Not even once.

Considering that tupper typed about half of the stuff in her 2 posts (and a lot of gibberish), and that alone took about 2h, letting her write an entire text would easily beat Linkzelda's 10h image streaming record. I mean I'm crazy, but not that crazy.

Playing tic-tac-toe with possession might indeed be fun although it would probably work at the speed of chess-by mail. Will try and report but it might take some time.

And I'm not really fond of too much symbolism either, in the above case it probably was more about the element of surprise.
But I have to confess, I had created a memory-temple that was supposed to hold all my thoughts and memories in the form of books and scriptrolls for tupper to study. Did not work at all. At some point, I think after about 2 months or a little more she just managed to access my memories. Without symbolism. Alice has since done some 'remodeling' within the memory temple, so far it seems that my sanity hasn't suffered from that. But what do I know...

The first mindvoice-response I remember came when walking through the supermarket and narrating about the food I saw and asking her if she was interested in any of it. While mentioning chocolate milk, I got a very weak 'chocolate milk' back. It was more like a faint thought than acutal mindvoice but at least it was something.

Mfw tupper likes chocolate milk. 10/10, not b&

I bought the milk with the goal of drinking it once I got a definite reply. For a long time this was the only reply I got outside of wonderland. But in good forcing session and emotional moments she soon was able to form simple sentences. Soon enough for me to still enjoy my chocolate milk with a cheers to Alice. I was relieved, after all being able to communicate is one of the most important things.
Thinking back, it was still strange though. On good days she could talk several sentences in a row, sometimes only words, sometimes she could only communicate with gestures for days. She said it depended on my focus on her. Guess I was to blame.

I don't really remember when she actually became fully vocal, I was lazy at writing down my progress after some months. It must have been after or around the time she had managed to access my memories, probably late December.