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Alexius Aurelius:
Two active forcing sessions done today. 30 minutes of visualization for the first, 5 minutes personality + 5 of cloudwatching + 26 of reading Game of Thrones to her for the second: 36 total. Feels good. Been 'feeding' her anything I've eaten today that isn't meat-based, trying yo narrate, etc. Plenty of work done today. Hoping it turns out to be productive.

Hey, Sands, Yogi, you two have tulpas, I want to ask- do you think it'd do me any good to throw away my parroting fears and try some of Fede's methods? Would I still be able to eventually switch/possess/etc? And what would a tulpa's opinion be on the whole deal?

Sands:
Can you use parroting to make a tupper? Sure. Can you use Fede's thing to make a tupper? Sure yeah, it looks like a valid method because honestly, anything is valid if you feel like it's working. All a mental thing, so you could probably make a tupper by doing anything if you were convinced you would get a tupper out of it.

Should you do it? Only you can tell. One thing I'll say is that how much you force per session isn't the limiting factor unless you find yourself finding it difficult to focus if you just do short sessions or something. The same goes for long sessions, what use is an hour long session if you only are focused for the first ten minutes or so? With short sessions, the advantage is that you can put it anywhere in your schedule and can't feel lazy. If you knew you had to get off the computer for an hour, you'll probably push that further and further away until the day is done. But if you have to do ten minutes now and ten, you'll find it much easier to just leave and go do it. Depends on what kind of a person you are and how long it takes you to get in the mood.

As for Fede's beliefs, the main thing that differs is that his definition of a tulpa is much wider than ours. He says tulpa, he means pretty much anything in your imagination no matter how separate or independent it seems. We say tulpa and we mean a thing that should feel like another person and definitely has fooled us into thinking that they really are. Despite what he says, he doesn't really seem to think that what we want out of a tulpa is impossible. Some tuppers he likes more than the host and seems to wish that they take over so the host wouldn't spend as much time in the real world, so that seems to imply to me that the tupper in question is given some kind of personhood in his eyes, as they could replace the host person. Similarly when it comes to some tuppers, they can have pretty normal conversations without Fede going on about his belief things. Many of the newer tuppers tend to get to taste his opinions, though.

And can't forget how his own tupper back in the day would do a lot of stuff on her own even if it was something Fede didn't like, like creating a wonderland when he was very against that kind of stuff and only finding out about it later. So there's some irony about the guy with the very separate-feeling tupper saying these things.

Alexius Aurelius:
Well, that's a whole darn lot to reply to, and on mobile to boot. Alright... In order....

Dimmer, got it. Will it work on my phone if I hold it close to my face or do I just need to wait until I get my computer back and running?

Yes, you do have a tulpa. I wanted another's opinion; obviously you'd agree with yourself after all. Not discounting your own experience here.

And then comes the meat of it. Well. I could say a whole lot of stuff now but I feel I should just condense it and say that yes, authenticity is all I want out of this, and if some Mr Science Dude could give me concrete evidence that it was all imagination tomorrow, I'd quit tulpas entirely. Not out of anger or anything, but simply because the whole concept would in that light would thus fail to deliver what I actually want in the first place: not fun or sensory stimulation above and beyond the normal human experience, but a COMPANION.

Alright, Sands, I'll try and apply that to what I'm doing now. Small sessions where I can if big ones get derailed. Whatever works and feels like it's working above and beyond time counting. Don't fear parroting and such.

And, uh. I guess weigh everything else you said against Fede's philosphy. Which I find a bit cold and empty, not gonna lie. Last four lines there made me cringe.

And now I'm gonna just go off and try turpentine things and try not to be too spooked off the whole thing. this got entirely too cereal for something I got into for fun and feels sweet merciful goodness why

MegaBusta:
Good game, Fede.

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