Author Topic: RoF's Progress on Tulpas  (Read 13734 times)

RailOfFire

Re: Rail's Progress on Tulpas
« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2014, 06:16:58 AM »
I have no idea what you're talking about.
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(you don't have to try to create a personality that has flaws in place as those will develop on their own, no way to create a "perfect" person). Tuppers aren't characters you write for a book after all, they aren't something you have to write down to their most insignificant quirks or ticks, they don't have to be "believable" and you don't have to strive to not make your original personality to not be a Mary Sue.
 And especially as they live for a bit longer, they experience a lot and change.

So just don't worry about that too much. It really isn't an issue at all. Now go force more.

Good advice, here.
I'll just toss the personality sheets aside and work with no personality; he should, like you said,  deviate in time.
This is, in fact, what I had hoped for at the start;

as I personally want to give my tulpa freedom to choose what he wants to be.
It's something I hint at quite a lot during July and August.




(To be honest with you, the sheets were really a burden in the first place.)
« Last Edit: October 17, 2014, 06:30:01 AM by RailOfFire »

Re: Mail's Tentdress on Pulpers
« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2014, 07:02:46 AM »
Finally. Some honesty.

Re: Rail's Progress on Tulpas
« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2014, 06:18:45 PM »
Well, you could still "force" a personality, just know that it tends to change a lot and new things will be added and some things will never be a part of the final outcome. Just do what feels natural to you, though. You don't have to do it if you feel it's not really useful.

In some cases it feels like personality forcing is just basically narration with a very narrow topic. I guess you could also potentially change it into something like "I wish you were like.../It would be cool to have someone who..." if you start running out of things to narrate.

RailOfFire

Rail's Progress on Tulpas
« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2014, 05:31:02 PM »
10/19/2014 (Sunday) - Have been with my family all day today, therefore haven't been able to do anything related to Creation.
I've also got an event connected to my studies that I have to attend tomorrow, so I'd imagine nothing will be able to be done tomorrow.

10/20/2014 (Monday) - An event was hosted today, haven't been able to do anything today.
Perhaps later on in the day or tomorrow.

11:47 PM (Monday) - Began Creation today.
However, even with a simplistic form and Wonderland slate, I couldn't finish Creation with any progress.
I could not focus on my tulpa, for one, not only because of intrusive thoughts (because, actually, I haven't had very many), but because of my tulpa its-self.
When asked a simple question (such as, "What is your name?"), slight whispering could be heard, almost as if it was coming from the left side of my head.
It sounded oddly familiar, actually; if anything, it was more of a group.
This is not, of course, a lie; I do not roleplay about the topic of tulpas, even more so, hardly ever.
This could be an intrusive thought, but it bugs me so, as I haven't been able to begin Creation due to me never being able to understand my subconscious.
Similar behavior has been repetitive from previous Creation dates.
I feel as if the mental block I've attempted to clear my mind of is still present; I do, in fact, know what it would be.
It would pertain to my surroundings and my past (which is, of course, a story for another time).
I've tried to clear my mind of it, attempted to "brighten" my life, almost as if trying to "improve my life" temporarily; to, ultimately, escape depression, I guess I could say.
But I suppose it hasn't gone, and I'm going to have to rid of it and move on some way or another.
Things like these truly make me wonder whether or not I'm actually ready for the responsibility of a tulpa, in which, by this point, I'm starting to think 'no'.
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[Side Note]

10/21/2014 (Tuesday) - Started to lose time lately.
I've noticed that a lot of my time has been taken involuntarily by other events, projects, and most of all, my studies.
The chances that I'm thinking about tulpamancing or are trying to put my mind off of other things nowadays are very slim.
I'm sure it's not as terrible as I make it out to be, but it's still something to be worried about.

10/22/2014 (Wednesday) - No information written for the current date.

10/23/2014 (Thursday) - No information written for the current date.

10/24/2014 (Friday) - No information written for the current date.

10/25/2014 (Saturday) - No information written for the current date.

RailOfFire

Re: Rail's Progress on Tulpas
« Reply #34 on: October 30, 2014, 05:31:26 PM »
10/26/2014 (Sunday) - No information written for the current date.

10/27/2014 (Monday) - No information written for the current date.

10/28/2014 (Tuesday) - This would be, I would guess, the second time I've been off of here for a week.
This progress report has reached its downfall incredibly fast, especially by now; I'd assume all this inactivity of mine is one of the main reasons why I can't visualize or even rid of this mental block.

10/29/2014 (Wednesday) - Researched a small bit today.
No real, helpful information found.
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I might simply decide to meditate for about an hour before I begin creation again, which will be on the first of November.
I've got to put my best efforts into this.
If all else fails, I might have to decide to stop this for now, and resume this later on in life.
This doesn't seem like the right thing for me at the moment, although I'm hoping that I won't have to put this off purposefully.

Re: Rail's Progress on Tulpas
« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2014, 06:23:05 PM »
>my subconscious

Implying there is one thing you could call your "subconscious" that you could ever actually understand.

How you speak of this Creation is pretty creepy with that capital letter and all. "Creating a tulpa" was too long for you?

Also, just stop procrastinating and force more. Just chill. Do shorter sessions you can easily just go do and then come back to what you're doing. Too busy doing nothing in front of the computer? We all are. But I'm sure you can stop it for ten minutes to talk to a tupper a couple of times each day. You need to stop making forcing sessions some big thing that has to be super perfect, then you start getting anxious and keep putting it off when you feel like you can't do it. Do short ones, but do them often. It's easy to stop doing something else for that time and you'll easily be able to focus for that time, too. And if you can't? Well, it was just a short session, so you just go on with your life and return in a couple of hours and do it again. Maybe it goes better, then.

It's not rocket science. You don't have to overcomplicate everything.

Re: Yale's penis on Hopplas
« Reply #36 on: October 31, 2014, 04:40:40 AM »
More like it's Rail's mindset that's the problem to begin with. Like, "WHOA MAN TUPLAS ARE FUCKING PEOPLE MAN DON'T MAKE ONE IF YOU AIN'T GONNA TREAT IT WITH RESPECT MAN WATCH OUT MAN THIS TAKES FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY MAN".

Playing with your imagination doesn't require "responsibility", what. And you don't need to "treat it with respect" or "FOCUS ON IT ALL THE TIME OR ELSE YOU'RE A BAD HOST". It's like some group of bloody idiots have frontloaded the idea onto you that tuppers are unique super-extra special separate consciousnesses that are as real as you and aren't meant for sexual and fuck my duck. What's with all the ethics? Gigantic waste of time.

It's all one, big joke. There are no tuppers. Just advanced imagination. Enjoy.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2014, 08:33:46 AM by Fede »

Re: Rail's Progress on Tulpas
« Reply #37 on: October 31, 2014, 07:44:13 AM »
Well, his mindset might not be wrong and that's something many of us feel like after having tuppers. And you yourself have also proven how right this mindset has been despite disliking it.

Re: Rail's Rail on Rails
« Reply #38 on: October 31, 2014, 08:46:00 AM »
I'd say it depends on the viewpoint from which I choose to interpret whatever happened while the tulip was still around. I could say "Yep, she is/was a totally different person in my head." and it'd fit. I could also say "It was a character which was able to act in convincing ways that could very easily fool me into thinking something 'higher' beyond imagination was going on, and successfully did so for a while." and it'd still fit. By holding the latter viewpoint, I presume less. Plus, there's also less confusion between her and any other thing that happens or has happened in my mind, however paradoxical that may sound.

Pardon my pessimism.

Re: Rail's Progress on Tulpas
« Reply #39 on: October 31, 2014, 09:09:23 AM »
Well, you can apply that same logic to every single other person in this world that is not you, so...

The point still is that a tupper should certainly feel like they're something more. Because this stuff is impossible to prove or test however, we don't know if they really are or aren't. I just prefer to treat potentially sapient creatures like they're actually sapient, as I feel like the worst thing is treating a sapient being like they're not. I don't think you'd like it if I treated you like you're not a real person - and well, honestly, the mind demon in my head feels more "real" than many other people in this world.

PS. the tulpas are still going to take over you and convert you into their slave, fodde-kun.

MegaBusta

Re: Rail's Progress on Tulpas
« Reply #40 on: October 31, 2014, 09:20:28 AM »
It's already begun.
By the time you realize, it'll be too late.

Help me.

Re: Yep's Yep on Yep
« Reply #41 on: October 31, 2014, 12:42:22 PM »
I just prefer to treat potentially sapient creatures like they're actually sapient, as I feel like the worst thing is treating a sapient being like they're not.



I don't think you'd like it if I treated you like you're not a real person - and well, honestly, the mind demon in my head feels more "real" than many other people in this world.

It's called being genre savvy.

Re: Rail's Progress on Tulpas
« Reply #42 on: October 31, 2014, 09:37:33 PM »
Hey, I watched that movie semi-recently.

Re: Rail's Rails
« Reply #43 on: November 01, 2014, 07:15:38 AM »
More like I watched your mum semi-recently.

Re: Rail's Progress on Tulpas
« Reply #44 on: November 01, 2014, 08:26:31 AM »
No, I'm pretty sure it was the movie.