Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - Septimus

Pages: [1]
1
Off-Topic / Re: Relationships and Behavior
« on: January 10, 2014, 10:30:01 PM »
I could tell form Enny's tone in his posts that he wanted this to quiet down so I just didn't check for updates, figuring I would only feel more repulsed by Fede's comments. Indeed, it's a good thing i didn't check, otherwise this might have seen a third long post by me, as there was plenty to bring up, but since its gotten what will probably be the best short-term resolution, I'll just grit my teeth and bear it. Ending up with what was a rather amusingly short period of activity on this website, since I have no desire to hang around.

2
Off-Topic / Re: Relationships and Behavior
« on: January 09, 2014, 01:33:49 AM »
Sorry, the palpable condescension and self glorification was a bit hard to slog through, my reply is thusly delayed.
 
I seem to possess the innate skill to rustle jimmies, coming off as a guy with a superiority complex to many, seeing others as being below him, shoving what he believes down others' throats as being the only right way. I believe Septimus and Enny both need to learn about the concept of self-possession, for I find they're very easily offended by my words.
Guys, don't worry, he's not condescending, we are just too inferior to understand him properly, we just need to be more like him.

I'm just stating my opinion on how I think it's what one in laymen's terms perhaps would call a "long shot", and about how I find you to have excessive wishful thoughts on this matter.
Oh, wow, he's so nice, he's simplifying down his great intelligence into "layman's terms" so that we inferiors can understand him!
No but seriously, layman's terms? Alright... so then how does one say "a long shot" in non-layman's terms? And what terms might these even be? So far as I can tell you are not referencing any particularly technical or complicated idea. Phrases like "a long shot" are colloquialisms, idioms. They are not dumbed down versions of more complicated or heavily technical ideas.

I don't believe it's about me "unintentionally" seeming condescending. All my words are intentional, I assure you. I've talked to other people with very similar phrasing who were mature enough to take in words without feeling attacked, so really, I'd say it's a subjective thing. And you're you.
...B-But you realize that, in that very sentence, you are being  condescending, right? By saying that other people are mature enough to deal with you, you are implying that whoever you are talking to is not, and because maturity is generally seen as a good thing to have, you are implying that the reader is not as good as other people, of whom you are implied to be one, as the measure for others' maturity is their level of tolerance for you. Which, by the way, is a hilariously self-absorbed and self-glorifying way to judge people.

But it's ok for you, because this is "but another opinion of mine" (which you are allowed to dismiss? even though we are judged by how well we accept your own opinions... hold on, need some more water to swallow the egocentricity), right? No, actually, it is an interpretation of your words that is well founded in reason and knowledge of the English language, but after reading your responses it seems as though you don't really get the function of opinions anyways.
Your claim that I'm going for being a dick is an opinion, as I never stated at any point that I'm in this thread or anywhere else going for being a dick. Shoving my method and accessories is done out of good heart, but I'm already past the "first-hand recommendation phase" in this thread."
Actually, his claim that you are going for being a dick is just that, a claim. And, in my opinion, it is a rather solid claim, based off what you have already said. I might as well accept this claim too, since you never denied it, you just fallaciously said that his claim is not valid because you had not previously confirmed it, which, unlike what you seem to believe, you are not required to do for the claim to be valid. Also goddamnit, if there is any product you should be pushing it is a pain reliever for the headaches that your superiority complex must give people, I mean, "done out of good heart", isn't that a bit over the top, even for you? Or do you honestly believe that everyone would be that much better off to have something you made that it would just make you a bad person for not sharing your glory?

All this said, the thing that quite possibly bugged me the most about your responses was your apparent assertion of the superiority of "natural" relationships.
He can get to know her, yes, but that seems to be more of a devoted effort rather than a friendship that sprung from what I would mostly deem a "natural process"; as in, gradually getting to know someone "just like that" without having planned something from the start like "Yush, I'm gonna do my earnest to be friends with this dude/chick."
You know what? Relationships like these suck, more often than not. They may seem nice at first, but that's all they ever really are. They are just seemingly a relationship.
I once had a romantic relationship like this myself, actually. Due to odd circumstance, a stranger and I ended up in one place together for awhile, with each other as the only consistent other people there. So, we talked, a little. Small talk, talk about our life stories, talk about the other people coming through this place. After awhile, we got used to talking to each other, so even when we were no longer bound by circumstance to this place, we went to there often to talk to each other. the friendship continued like this, we just slowly became more used to one another being around, and finally when it came to the point of dependance of one another's presence, we decided to call it romantic. Of course, being called romantic the language and actions changed to be more romantic, but still, we didn't actually know all that much about each other.In the end, we both looked back on the relationship and realized that actually, we didn't like each other at all, we had just become used to each other being there, despite not really knowing who the other person was.

So what's the point of all that? The point is, there is nothing inherently special about a relationship growing "naturally", in fact usually relationships like that turn out to be founded on nothing. It is probably much more healthy for a relationship to be actively seeking the other person out, because it means a few things. Like, that you are willing to put in effort to be near this person, or that they are not just some random stranger that you don't mind being around, but someone who seems to you to be very distinctly likeable. Heck, a tulpa represents this in probably the best way possible, you actively seek out its creation and work hard to create it, and you seem to have a pretty high opinion of tulpa relationships.


I shall have you know this is mostly how I achieved my ever-so-infamous status across the community; by incessantly shoving my method and accessories so I could test people and see whom were mature enough to resist it calmly. Although, I'm going a bit easier on it these days, but still.
... Alright but did you actually just pat yourself on the back for being an asshole? Did you really just excuse your obnoxious behavior as a test to see what people you could deem mature enough? Did you continue to actually seem regretful for being less of an obnoxious ass? I'm not sure why I bother...

3
Off-Topic / Re: Relationships and Behavior
« on: January 08, 2014, 01:53:41 AM »
Alright but really? Fede Do you really consider yourself so far above this kid? You are so goddamn condescending, I think I may become physically ill!
When Miriam one day is developed enough to be a satisfactory friend in all departments you feel empty in, maybe you'll think differently about friends in general, like me. Such is my hope either way, so that you may finally put an end to this desperate craving and start enjoying life with one that truly understands you like no one else ever would be able to.
As for selectively not taking what I say seriously, that's up to you. If you want to be oblivious, then so be it.
You clearly can't even begin to try to see the world through any scope but you own! You just hold up your situation as the pinnacle of of perfection, using the fact that other people aren't exactly like you as a reason to insult them.

To be completely honest, your situation sounds really terrible; you rely solely on your tulpa for companionship and let that stop you from forming any other relationships. Don't get me wrong, the idea of a tulpa drew me in for similar reasons as you listed, something to talk to that will really get what you are saying, better than probably anyone else can, but by no means would I consider that to be the only interaction I want in life. As someone who, apparently unlike you, actually had a few relationships, I can legitimately say that the whole feel is different from having a tulpa. Not inferior, not superior, just flat out different. It is completely reasonable to want both a tulpa and some relations with other people!

As for his reasons for liking this girl, sure, they are a bit shallow and childish, but why is that so infuriating to you? He has even acknowledged that they are not the best reasons, but well damn, I guess that's just not enough, you need to consistently criticize him about for no reason. I mean come on! By now, any lesson that he might have learned from your scolding is old and repeated, and that just makes him all the more likely to ignore it. Quite honestly, the reasons aren't terrible. She is pretty, that's a plus, she shares some interests in games (a point you very cleverly decide to never mention), that's a plus, she seems friendlier than other people, that's yet another plus. Plus plus plus, sure they don't say much about her actual character but people don't just display that for the public to see. That's the whole point of getting to know someone, its figuring out whether you actually like them (in a platonic or romantic way). So say this person turns out to be a neo nazi who kicks puppies and likes to catch and fry up endangered species for fun; "Well, guess THAT was a mistake, outward appearances sure can be decieving. Oh well, better luck next time,". Simple as that! He's not trying to make some life-long connection with ONLY THIS ONE GIRL FOR EVER AND EVER AND NOBODY ELSE CAN EVER DO, he is just interested in someone he met in a store! Hell, from what I can tell he would be okay if this doesn't get much past friendship, he just feels like she would be a nice friend. Just for gods' sakes, let him have his "wishful girlfriend thoughts" if he wants to, he never asked for your help.


Pages: [1]