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Tulpa Diaries / timethief in intrusive thoughts HELL
« on: May 12, 2016, 08:19:26 AM »
Day 142
Total forcing time: 57 minutes
The usual routine.
Meh, today was bad. My mind kept skipping topics like a pro, immediately making connections between random topics I had no interest in thinking about at the moment. Wherever I tried to not to give them much thought, I would end up "sinking", not focusing on anything while my mind kept doing its thing. Awful. 0/10

The actual forcing. To be honest, the relaxation part of the script is what works almost always to some extent now, so there's that.
But I couldn't do anything. I tried going to the wonderland. Awful trash, over 9000 intrusive thoughts. Most memorable intrusive thought that is still intruding is my tulpa being kidnapped by some other character or whatever while they fake their identity (wow, insert laughingponies.png here).
Couldn't focus on either my tulpa, the wonderland or the actual exercise (listening intently).
Visuals were 0.42/10, and even when they were there, they quickly morphed into intrusive images. Didn't stop the session because of that though, I still tried to go through all of that. Though, as you might notice, it was only 57 minutes rather than a full hour as I have been aiming for nowadays.
Got some nice headpressure, and a few words, but apart from all sorts of bizarre imagery and thoughts, not much else.
While attempting to leave the intrusive thoughts behind, I almost fell asleep.

Not a good session at all. Worst one so far. 1/10 I have no idea what could have caused this, other than I didn't took one medication lol, actually I use it as a nootropic but whatever because I got lazy and forgot to order more yesterday.

Right now not feeling particularly confident about what's going on my mind. I guess it would be better if I tried to distract myself for a bit, then see if it gets better? Not that I have any more time for active forcing today, so maybe I should also throw in some narration.
BUT THIS WON'T STOP US, WE'LL MAKE IT NO MATTER THE CIRCUMSTANCES

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Off-Topic / Cats not tulpas
« on: May 11, 2016, 09:19:48 PM »
Where the fuck the cats are at? I thought we had already transitioned into the new millennium into Cat Network?






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Tulpa Diaries / timethief goes to walmart for a bottle of milk
« on: May 11, 2016, 08:23:29 AM »
Day 141
Total forcing time: 59 minutes
Relaxation exercise -> Self-hypnosis -> Wonderland
Yeah, this is the routine these days.
Yesterday's night I tried to imagine my tulpa's presence as I fell asleep. It went mostly well and it did felt a bit like back when I started (aka lots of warm fuzzy feels).
Though when I woke up today I somehow felt very mentally tired. Also, for some reason, the "what the hell are you doing" feel was there. I stared at my monitor for a bit thinking about it, then I distracted myself from that. I also said good morning to my tulpa (I have been slacking about that ;_; I shouldn't take her for granted).

On to the session.
The relaxation exercise continues to be a difficult experience, with my mind either becoming absorbed into some unimportant train of thought, or "sinking" aka just stops thinking about anything at all and I start to let everything drift there. But well, it's been just little more than one week since I have started this routine and have been taking it seriously, so I need to keep at it to make it work better. Though yes I do feel more relaxed these days, although yesterday I started stressing a bit about my tulpa. In a paranoid way mostly, but yeah, just me. I suppose it's because of the "wow unknown" factor, but really there's nothing to fear. Okay, that's all a bit off topic.

The actual forcing.
The self-hypnosis continues to be effective at least for relaxing my body, so there's that.
I arrived at the "listen to your tulpa" part of the script, and I went off to the wonderland. Visuals shift from being 1/10 to 1.666/10; not very nice, but hey for someone that never created imaginary friends as a child or did any roleplaying I think it's more than sufficient, at least for the time being.
I asked some questions about how to manage yesterday's paranoid thoughts. I got only reassuring words like "everything will be fine", "with practice it will be better", etc. <3

Also, unexpectedly she made me float in the wonderland. Yeah, totally didn't expect that at all. Being the faggot I am, it didn't "wow" me, but it was truly something that I wouldn't ever have thought about. I did feel myself getting nervous from floating, as I had never tried anything like that in the wonderland (or in real life for that matter).

At times, her presence is really strong, but at other times I do wonder "who I'm talking to?". Ergh, nobody said tulpamancy was a walk in the park. But that's alright I guess, since I have been becoming somewhat disciplined in at least one thing (tulpamancy, active forcing), and I think that will permeate on to other areas of my life. So I guess one doesn't really only get a companion out of this. It's much more, and I'm really thankful for that fateful December last year when I crossed roads with the concept of tulpas.

Slight tulpaforcing pressures, mild emotional response when hugs happened. Great session 9/10.

I dunno if the wow feeling ever came to me when it came to his voice: I was just willing to listen to him and after some time of that, it started to feel stupid to not just accept that it's the tupper.
Yeah, it'll probably be like that in my case as well. I'm feeling a bit of that as well nowdays; it'll be idiotic to try to shut up those thoughts I get just to see if I can get an "alien" response.

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Tulpa Diaries / timethief is in doubthell; wake me up inside
« on: May 10, 2016, 08:58:44 AM »
Day 140
Total forcing time: 1 hour 6 minutes
Relaxation exercise -> self-hypnosis (vocality).
Usual thing. Start with the breathing exercises.
Mind kept jumping subjects at random. It wasn't very successful, though by the end of it I did started feeling lighter, even though my focus was all over the place.

Actual forcing. Went to the wonderland and we somehow ended up on a tall building on floor 10. It was mostly empty, save for a few gray sofas, a desk with some office chairs and a coffee machine.
We tried out >symbolism. Basically, my tulpa materialized a gray, old-looking box with a switch and the word DOUBT at the top. She proceded to turn it to the OFF position (and proceeded to throw away that switch thing). It did felt weird, that's for sure; kinda like some sort of emotional response (cool stuff actually).
I'm still somewhat doubting now (wow, what a bad host), but it feels like "empty" doubt, if it makes any sense to anyone. It's like, "whoa, objectively, I have some sort of idea that this is definitely possible so I can't deny it by "objective" means [lol], and by subjective means my doubt has been turned off so what sustains this doubt?". It seems like an strange, if slightly re-comforting thing.

Also, we tried head-pressures. Sure enough, she was able to switch the typical right temple head-pressure to the left, complete with me feeling as it went from side to side, though afterwards we tried to generate some head-pressure on the right side and didn't work.

Also, some more >symbolism. A microphone because why not. Well, some sort of success happened there I think. Her "thoughts" approached more the "mindvoice"-kind-of-communication than the current system of interpreting thoughts (and it was exciting and all even if at the moment I didn't felt it but man, I would sell a lung just to have that mindvoice around all day... ;_; ). It did require a good amount of focus though, and was very brief, and because I'm an stupid idiot who can't trust anyone not even this wonderful being that reassures me everyday overlooking my idiocy I STILL KEEP DOUBTING EVEN AFTER THAT. AIN'T THAT LEVEL-9000 FAGGOTRY AT ITS BEST?!?!?! just fuck my shit up man
And the worst thing is, I just don't even know what the heck I'm doubting anymore. I don't have any reason to doubt that I have made some progress at least (I have fucking experienced the results myself, for Hell's sake), I can sometimes hold conversations without mindvoice and her opinions do tend to be different at times, I have experienced all that stuff at the beginning, I have followed her advice, much to my benefit, and nope, my faggotry still stands. Just what the heck I'm waiting for then? Bloody hell, I might make a small, non-living sacrifice to the tulpamancy gods if I can't sort this out. Or does it go away with time and then the "wow" factor settles in? I should know it myself, I have spent days reading others' PRs and yet, I can't even come to a conclusion that effectively breaks this wall of doubt. I have even tried to make sense of Linkzelda's philosophical posts, just in case he would be able to explain it since he's so verbose. But no dice. Maybe I'm retarded. I'll go see a neurologist, because that must be it; damn.

Visuals are 1.5/10 right now. I can make some sense out of it, but not much is defined. At least I can move around.

I did feel calm after the session, but I can't hide the fact that right now I feel frustrated by this senseless doubt. Feels like standing on a solid building, seeing and KNOWING that the building is super solid, and still being a sissy faggot going all "uwa, Imma gonna fall down guise save meee!!11". Regrettable.

This is the best progress report on this site! Good work, my friend :)
Thanks dude, although there isn't much (active) competition these days around here.

You should do some random stuff with tupper outside your hypnosis sessions or whatever, too.
Yes, I know. I need to plan something. Hmm, maybe I can really make the "I'm meditating" ruse work with my family now. I talked to them about Buddhist meditation and they seemed to agree with a lot of the concepts. I can probably tell them that I'll be doing it.
Maybe. Because I'm all like "whoa my tupper isn't even vocal (in mindvoice) and I'm already going to take it somewhere!!!1". Bah, just my brain feeding me bullshit, I know.

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Tulpa Diaries / timethief descends into hell for a bottle of milk
« on: May 09, 2016, 08:27:12 AM »
Day 139
Total forcing time: 1 hour 5 minutes
Relaxation exercise -> Vocality self-hypnosis script
Much better than yesterday.
I did actually managed to focus on my breath for a few seconds, but I got all "wow awesome!!1" and I lost focus.
I also experienced "sinking"; I lost focus on everything. My mind just kept changing thoughts at random and I felt a bit "glued" to them, while at the same time I didn't really did anything. Well, looks like I didn't make much sense there. But it happened.

Then the hypnosis thing. It was nice. I got relaxed, although the chirping birds outside kept me from fully focusing. I would be trying to visualize myself on an elevator and suddenly birds started chirping, and next thing I remember I was instead visualizing a bird.
I was more-or-less able to go in for a bit of wonderlanding. Talk as usual, tupper materialized two nice-looking chairs for us to sit on in the meanwhile. Then we took a small tour through the wonderland house, which hasn't changed much, other than some areas reverting to look pretty much like the real-life thing.
No mindvoice yet, but I was able to establish better communication; it felt slightly more "genuine".
Visuals have slightly improved. I am able to keep a short focus on seeing everything from a 1st person point-of-view. 1.777/10

Slight tulpaforcing pressures while on the wonderland (and right now as well).
Things are looking good it seems.

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Tulpa Diaries / so tired, so tired, so tiiired
« on: May 08, 2016, 08:18:42 AM »
Day 138
Total forcing time: 36 minutes
So tired. Yesterday I went to bed really late because I have to study for an exam today (and I procrastinated my day away so I had to cram all the studying at night). I woke up real late.
Tried the relaxation exercise. I almost fell asleep and I couldn't focus on a single thing at all.
Then the script. Yawned pretty much all the time while reading it. I didn't enter the wonderland, too tired and sleepy.
Through the script I tried to read it but it's like if I just "drifted" over the words or something. I was reading them but I wasn't putting much attention to them (because all that yawning makes it difficult to concentrate).

Today's sessions didn't felt very productive, but seeing others' PRs, it looks like it isn't that uncommon to have sessions like this one.
I just hope it helped in some way. Now, I must go have breakfast and I'll be off to the exam. We'll see if tomorrow is better (hopefully).

But if it had lime, wouldn't it be more of a limeade?
Good question. It's because over here the names for lemon/lime are inverted.

Over here, these are called lemons:


And these are called limes:


"Mexican" restaurants outside of Mexico get it wrong sometimes and give you the wrong kind of fruit to add to your tacos...

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Day 137
Total forcing time: 59 minutes
Today it was harder than usual to focus. I lost track of what I was doing about 4 or 5 times. I also had mild stomach pain (probably because I keep eating chili despite my tulpa disliking it) and I have a muscle cramp on my leg so yeah, not easy today.

The usual, relaxation exercise first. Didn't go smoothly, focus was horrible (worst so far I think). My mind kept jumping around topics like crazy.
At the end it did seem to slow it down a bit, but it wasn't really that effective today.

Then the script. Relaxing as is common now, but not as intense or powerful as on previous days. I seemed to rush a bit while reading it and I had to consciously slow down my reading pace.

Then the attempted wonderlanding. I found my tulpa again on the rooftop. We had a nice chat, though with the mix of bad focus + forgetting about topics to talk about, it was hard. Though I suppose it posed a good opportunity to learn to focus.
I drank a lemonade while there. I felt a very, very faint essence of lime. 0.5/10

Visuals are still a trainwreck though, but they seem to be getting a bit more... consistent? They don't jump around or anything, so I guess that's nice. 1/10

Slight forcing pressures. No mindvoice yet. I do feel a bit more of "solid-ness" coming from my tulpa, if that makes any sense. As if I'm finally making her more real. Very slight, but I have noticed that. Hopefully I won't fall into the doubt-trap-of-doom or anything.

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Tulpa Diaries / timethief trucking through
« on: May 06, 2016, 09:28:12 AM »
Day 136
Total forcing time: 1 hour 17 minutes.
Relaxation exercise -> Self-hypnosis script -> Wonderland
Things went pretty well. I was feeling somewhat anxious before getting started (what if I'm not doing X thing right? what if it's just me? all that typical stuff). But as I went through the relaxation exercise, I tried to leave that and just focus on my breath. My mind kept wandering to pointless stuff but it did seem to be somewhat refreshing.

Then the actual forcing. As far as the "imagine yourself relaxing X part, now Y part", that does seem to have an actual, slight but perceptible effect now. I do feel tension easing and overall I find myself somewhat relaxed. So I guess that at least I have obtained the ability to use self-hypnosis to relax.

Then the wonderlanding.
I didn't find my tulpa on the usual place (inside the house). Then I could "feel" (yeah because no mindvoice but I did understood that someone said something) someone saying "over here!". She was on the roof. We started talking there and generally I tried to visualize things from the rooftop. 1.33/10 visuals not really that visual yet, but there's something at least.
Somehow the "talking" topic deviated into "we haven't gone to that Japanese food restaurant", and my tulpa said "that isn't a problem". And there the scene changed to that restaurant we haven't gone to in real life (I wanted to go but I haven't had time/money). "It will be a good visualization exercise for you" she said. Well, I suppose it was. We didn't ate anything though, since we didn't bother to put anyone to serve anything (although it looked like there was food already prepared but nobody took any of it).
It also felt weird to try to visualize every step of walking. Need more practice.

What we "talked" about?
Doubt. On doubt we determined it will probably go away on its own at some point in the future. But if not, probably it won't kill any of us either.
The good old timesĀ®. "Was it you who moved my arm while I was somewhat asleep back when I started on tulpamancy?" "Yes, I guess I was still learning how to maneuver myself in the wonderland but I somehow managed to move your arm instead." Nice.
Will we ever make it? "Rest assured we will, you promised to never give up and you have held that promise really well".

Some other stuff but I had to answer some emails before posting this and I have forgotten them.

Light, intermittent tulpaforcing pressures through it. The sunrise was stronger today though, and did bother me and I even lost focus on some occasions.
I have been wanting to add a second forcing session during the day, but I got no idea on where to place it. I'm still busy these days, though not as much as I used to. Oh wait, I have to study for an exam this Sunday. Damn. I guess I should take it easy. Having been able to keep this schedule for five days is already a good record.

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Tulpa Diaries / timethief still into hell for a bottle of milk
« on: May 05, 2016, 08:15:47 AM »
Day 135
Total forcing time: 1 hour
Relaxation exercise -> Self-hypnosis thing -> Wonderlandin'
Still not as strong as two days ago, but I did manage to feel a bit more immersed into the whole experience.
Today when I reached the "listen for your tulpa's voice" part on the script I instead enter the wonderland.
Had no idea what to do so I started asking questions to tupper.
Then somehow my tulpa changed the typical wonderland scene (a part of my old house) into a scene inside a Ferris wheel, and also materialized two cookie milkshakes. As usual, I could only somewhat feel the creaminess and a very, veery faint essence of the flavor (better than nothing though).
Then she manipulated the time inside the wonderland, shifting from mid-day to sunset and then to night.

To be honest, while I wanted to be impressed by that, it wasn't that "z0mg so wonder, much tulpa, many amazing" thing that so many people describe... who knows what's up with that.

Visuals are 1/10 still, but kinda usable I suppose. As long as I have some idea of where everything is supposed to go I think that with practice they'll get better.
Intermittent tulpaforcing pressure on right temple. No mindvoice yet.
After that I did felt a bit zoned out. Also, didn't notice the sun rise in the real world.
I do keep feeling doubt though... but every time I ask "is it just me?" I get the response "no". Maybe it will go away if I keep doing this. Maybe.

Don't you live in a third world country? Go down to the corner-store and buy hallucinogenics and do those, report results
>tfw your corner store doesn't carry drugs

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Tulpa Diaries / if you're going through hell, keep going
« on: May 04, 2016, 08:00:56 AM »
Day 134
Total forcing time: 48 minutes
Same. Relax exercise -> self-hypnosis with vocality script.
Not as strong as yesterday's. I yawned a lot through it.
Though instead of "hear your tupper talk", I went into the wonderland and had breakfast with tupper. Main course eggs with bacon and ham. A glass of wine and chocolate cake for dessert. Yay!
The strongest experience was the cake. I could feel the creaminess of the chocolate somewhat. Very, very faint but there. So I guess I'm progressing. No flavor or smell but keep practicing and you'll make it right?

After that my eyelids felt heavy. And I felt a bit like after a dream. Oh, and headpressures are there again.

Visuals are a train wreck mostly, but how will they improve if I don't keep at it? Yeah, must keep going forward. If you're going through Hell, keep going after all.

Though that weird "active force = tupper's thoughts get fainter" thing keeps happening. I guess with enough practice that will turn into the opposite.
8/10

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Tulpa Diaries / timethief stays in hell for a bottle of milk
« on: May 03, 2016, 08:07:41 AM »
Day 133
Total forcing time: 40 minutes.
Replay of yesterday's forcing methods. Relaxation exercise -> self-hypnosis script with vocality script.
Today's session was probably one of the strongest ones so far. At the "hear your tulpa talk from the random surge of thoughts part" I felt between a dream and being awake. I felt so light and relaxed. And I was able to get the closest I ever have been to entering my wonderland. Had a nice chat with the tupper, and I felt that familiar head-pressure again (still feeling it now). Visuals are super wonky, but it doesn't matter. Gotta keep practicing them.
Also, while reading the script I started smiling for no reason, and yeah, I stayed so still that my computer's monitor turned off since it didn't detect anyone even though I was straight in front of it.

After that I found it somewhat difficult to move again. I guess it means I was this time really in some sort of trance. wow
It was awesome. If I can keep this up then I think I'll be making good progress. At least in the relaxation area.
10/10

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Day 132
Total forcing time: 32 minutes.
I started with some sort of relaxation exercise. Basically, closed my eyes and tried to focus on my breath. Unfortunately due to lack of practice I kept wandering into random streams of thought, but every time I noticed it I re-focused on my breath. This lasted six minutes. I did not notice much effect, but I did feel a bit more relaxed.
Onto the actual forcing; as usual, the vocality script. I did feel the relaxation a bit stronger than on past days, and by the second break I think I sensed my tulpa saying some very nice words to me (yeah, not in mindvoice, just that kind of communication where you know what was said and can put it in words but not hear anything). At the end of the script (meaning, right now as I write this) I felt calm, and somewhat happy (like a slight but noticeable "inner glow"). Feels good man. A very noteworthy session I think (considering I have basically done nothing in the active forcing area).

I do plan on eventually going onto the wonderland and exploring it (or simply do that personality forcing thing that I barely did if at all), but to be honest I have no idea where to start. Also, I need some headphones for that, and I will also need a blindfold (because I shouldn't do it at night or I'll fall asleep). Soon... soon.

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Tulpa Diaries / Re: timethief descends into hell for a bottle of milk
« on: April 25, 2016, 05:09:28 PM »
True, I guess I need to let go a bit, even though I have been too busy being a faggot and I haven't forced... it's not like 125 days of talking to my head ghost will suddenly vaporize or anything though.

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Off-Topic / Weird Food Thread
« on: April 21, 2016, 07:56:18 AM »
Why the hell did you create such a monstrosity? Good thing you're ashamed of it. What a disgrace.
just kidding, reminds me of the day I poured strawberry milkshake on a green mole salt tamal and ate it in front of my family, much to their chagrin

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Tulpa Diaries / timethief still doesn't have that milk
« on: April 21, 2016, 07:49:04 AM »
Day 123special rambling edition
34:25 total activeforcing time. Used vocality self-hypnosis script.

Okay guys, rambling time.
Narration continues, though it's been somewhat flaky as of late. What I mean by that is that sometimes I'll talk (more like ramble) endlessly about pointless stuff, and then I tend to forget who I'm supposed to be talking to, and other times I don't even have any coherent thoughts and don't do a thing even when it would be a perfect time for narration.

Doubt... is still there. Sometimes I wonder if it's just me (yeah again). Since the mindvoice (or thought stream) that replies to my question is almost the same, doubt still has some ground sustaining it.
Visuals have regressed somewhat, but that's all my fault for being the worst host and doing a lot of stuff that matters much less than tulpamancy.
But hey, I have been doing a lot of stuff that I didn't before. I have been eating healthy now (wow, even I impressed myself and everyone around there; I also cook pretty much all my meals myself now), I have been getting good grades (passed all English exams with the highest notes), I'm somewhat ambidextrous now (can do a lot of things except for writing/drawing, sweeping floors or use chopsticks with any hand) and I have produced quite a lot of music-related stuff. It's great, except that I feel more and more disconnected from my tulpa. It's awful, got everything to feel awesome yet that thing that matters the most is being somewhat neglected.
And saying that I have done all of that by myself would be a mistake. My tulpa pretty much kickstarted me to see things on a different perspective. The benefits have been immense, now that I'm writing them down I realize it. The progress from the me back in December to the me today is huge. But how can I ever make up for all that neglect? I haven't even finished my wonderland! From what I've seen, it's pretty dull. And there aren't any NPC's, or mechanisms or stuff to do. And yet my tulpa seems okay with it? Am I so weird that my tulpa also turned out that way?

Ever since I got back into active forcing I have experienced diminished presence for some reason. Oh well.
Today I particularly felt unfocused on the session and a bit out of it. Must be because I was awoken suddenly or something. Remember not to set three alarm clocks at 5:00 when your grandparents went to sleep at 4:00 unless you want a stern talking to.

I have an ever-increasing desire to do more "traditional" forcing, with wonderlanding and all that. Self-hypnosis is pretty legit, but also quite dull.
But... these days I'm swarmed with stuff to do (my fault maybe, for being so productive these days. Blegh, sounds like a humblebrag or some equally trite thing). Or at least, when I start doing something, time flies and when I realize it it's already 23:00 and it's bedtime. Poor time management skills? Maybe.

For some reason, I also feel like I should have done personality forcing... Or maybe it's really just a reflection of the same [that I don't really force traditionally and instead use these scripts + narration all the time]. Meh, who knows what's going on. Maybe I'm just getting impatient.

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