Author Topic: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]  (Read 5772 times)

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2025, 04:08:24 PM »
I am definitely worked, very weak and sore the next days, as it should be.

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2025, 05:14:47 PM »
Host is doing some insane soil shoveling work in the garden. I can't say I'm overly fond of it, it's probably an unnecessary ordeal but it sure will be some novel exercise. Only minor soreness so far, resistance to hand blisters has greatly increased.

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2025, 06:45:19 AM »
Gainz, we got the gainz week 3 of taking my own advice, work it till it really won't go and damn, I had a hard time with stairs, especially down stairs for 4 days, arms so weak and sore for several days, it's great. 

My new goal, no matter how crazy, is half my body weight per arm, in every conceivable direction push and pull. I'm there in many different directions, mostly pull, in some I'm only half there, in some even less, so for the ones I'm there, those I'm capping, just maintaining, my fingers get numb if I'm doing 20% over half my body weight anyway.

So the goal is, on the 4th or higher 6x6, gotta do 100lbs every single exercise per arm.

Someone told me my biceps are too big compared to my forearms and triceps, okay, yeah that makes sense since I can do 100's in pull in a lot of ways, I got to just to do pull ups right? And I figured I only need 1/2 body weight each arm to do pushups. So the triceps need work, forearms? I gotta look into that. I only have one exercise for forearms and that's the pipe winch thing.

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2025, 04:02:36 PM »
Yes that's crazy.
I still don't fully get it. So what's the weight in %max in each of the 6x6 reps?

I noticed I am still too conservative with weight with our 15/12/10/8/6/4 bc I don't want to injure the body. So we start with very low weight and only do the last 3 with so much weight that it's barely manageable. Did this twice so 2x6 sets of 15/12/10/8/6/4 for most push exercises yesterday. Soreness is minimal so far. Let's see tomorrow.

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2025, 05:22:30 PM »
If you don't care about looks, just to 50% body weight, do things you can do 3 sets of 12. The gainz will level off especially for 2 days/week. The body is good at meeting demands even into your 60's and 70's then it drops like a stone probably due to pain, bone spurs, dry joints, etc.

I want fucking every day stuff to be 20% of my max so I can do amazing things without hassle of tools like lifting a full trash can over my head and shit.

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2025, 09:36:02 PM »
So the goal of 6x6 is to barely to 6 by the 4th set, at least that's how I do it so 1-3 are ramping up, I can't be bothered to remember exactly where I'm at and there might have been gainz, so 4th set barely 6, that's about 90% remember that I count max at barely able to do 3 and I never do that because you will cause tendonitis. Then set 5 and 6 ramp back down to barely be able to do them.

Except for the ones I'm maintaining that ramps up to 100 (45.4kg) and goes 100 and I don't go to exhaustion, so like 80, 90, 100, 100, 100, 100 until they're all 100? Ig?

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2025, 12:23:04 PM »
I've been working out for... 11 years? No seriously for 11 or 12, not seriously since high school.

Many of the exercises I do involve locked symmetry between two arms. Things like push ups and pull ups, you presume that the arms will train equally, and it feels that way, however, some exercises like anything with a fixed bar on tracks or even with the rope in triceps work, asymmetry can result.

Mostly because I maxed out one machine I have been doing that exercise with one arm and the left and right are different, so I switched everything over to independent arm work and most exercises are symmetric but I have noticed that my right has more strength by 10% but in some cases less endurance. I kinda knew that but now it's been quantified. I can't see ot or measure it on my body but when I'm doing 90% 6x6 and then  work to exhaustion which I didn't ever do before intentionally, surely my right is stronger but has slightly less endurance in certain exercises. That will obviously adjust as I continue this style of exercise.

Free weights over bars, wire machine with independent weights for each hand, and things like bench and even rope, independent hands is the new way.

I'm always mixing this up because I get bored easily, and it's certainly fun if I see gains week to week.

As far as gains go, i can easily see 10-25% gains for exercises I've never done before, even if they are muscle groups I am used to, this has to be mental, but even those exercises I do regularly, this 6x6 followed by lift to exhaustion is making 10% week over week gains, that's crazy.

Having my arms sore for days, that's crazy.

My legs sore for a week? That's crazy.

Go for it, but again if you're sore, don't exercise that group again until it's no longer sore. If you have joint pain or tendon soreness, you have to let that heal. Tendinitis takes a month to resolve, let it heal.

Good gains to all.



Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2025, 03:49:54 PM »
Host started working out with friends from school when he was 17 I think. It went like this for a few years but eventually the others stopped, and without student discounts it was too expensive and too far away. Had to go there by subway or bus for 30-45min. He always did light exercises at home but that was barely anything. We only started again because of you, so thanks for that!

According to latest body checkup a year ago there's no major asymmetry but left arm is significantly weaker. Can do less reps with the same weight. I try to push host to do more exercises with the left arm to correct that but so far I'm not sure this will really make a difference.

Gym time is currently massively reduced because of garden work. Host shoveled earth for 3h today and carted it away with the wheelbarrow. The result is a good tiredness but barely any soreness. I'm still not sure these movements are particularly healthy for the spine but it's not like we do that every day for decades. It's definitely good to do a broad variety of exercises.

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2025, 11:09:51 AM »
Still getting very sore, damnit I'm still learning this after all these years. Work to exhaustion, it's making a whole new curve of gains.

I was doing the quad machine, I usually put 100-140 but my goal is 200 so I put 140x6 and 160, then 180 etc, well I do 200 and I can do 6, like wtf was I doing all this time on 140? So I end up with 12 at 200 next set. Check another one off the 200 goal list.

There's a couple exercises I'm only at 30-50, so there's still plenty of fun to be had.

Strait arm lat pull down, goal is 100, current at about 40.

Single arm tricep rope pushdown goal is 100, two arm I do 140 (need 200) one arm, 70, need 100. But I want good form too, that's even less.

Front raises, side raises, need a lot of work. I never worked delts explicitly until last year, they've improved 100% but I need 150 more percent.

Overhead press, my least favorite, I was better at this before covid, at only 40-50 now barbell each side, Embarrassing




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Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2025, 02:26:52 PM »
I was doing the quad machine, I usually put 100-140 but my goal is 200 so I put 140x6 and 160, then 180 etc, well I do 200 and I can do 6, like wtf was I doing all this time on 140?
I know that feel. We always start with low weight. Things tend to get hard in the mid weight range, then a short pause and strangely the body can handle more reps with the highest weight. That's actually cool.

Overhead press, my least favorite, I was better at this before covid, at only 40-50 now barbell each side, Embarrassing
Dude that's like 20kg?
I can't lift 20kg with one arm. We have water canisters this size to haul around in the garden. The body can run around carrying two but lifting them overhead? No chance. I actually don't even know what max weight we use at the overhead press machine for 6reps. With dumbbells 10kg max before things become unsafe.


Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2025, 03:44:23 PM »
If I bench my own weight, that's 100lbs per side. I was doing 225 low, bench, and high, not overhead because that doesn't even use chest so that's not comparable but I need to get there, as a goal at least.

My shoulders stopped liking bench, but I will continue to train the same muscle groups.

In high school, I couldn't do 10lbs more than 6 overhead. I used a 10lb weight for years and then started working my way up. I was surprised I could only do 45's in the fall. I have to get that up.

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2025, 03:48:02 PM »
I did this too, I do 3x10 still at arms length.



That's 20 lubs (bestie called them lubs forever)

It's a 10lb tooth off a land grader and a 10lb dumbell

I hold this out at arms length in front, 3 sets of 10, reverse, 3 sets of 10 again. The arms have a nice stiffness to them afterwards.

Now Yakumo can do a reverse image algorithm to get the reflection off the pipe, who knows what you might find.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2025, 03:50:06 PM by Wofl »

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2025, 04:43:12 PM »
It's not called lubs?

>who knows what you might find


Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #43 on: March 22, 2025, 04:56:39 PM »
Lb = pound

Lbs = pounds

Just like English from England Imperial Units

Re: Weight Lifting for Size [Bear]
« Reply #44 on: March 24, 2025, 05:26:39 PM »
Yes that totally makes sense!
lb is the most straightforward abbreviation for 'pound'. An hey, let's add another one for plural!