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Re: Doujin and friends
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2015, 09:28:00 AM »
Guess I could post a little update. We've been progressing when it comes to switching. Yuki has been playing Minecraft, and my host can get pretty detached from the body during that, and hang out with me. He still can't fully ignore his senses, but we're getting there. During more intense things for the body, like me playing my Counter-Strike, he has more trouble not paying attention at the moment. Lots of flashing lights, loud noises and all that probably don't help with trying to keep your attention elsewhere.

We've been doing a couple different things that might be interesting for other people who are in a similar boat as we are. Our main problems at this time are maintaining long term focus during forcing sessions, and getting my host to leave the body. For the first of those issues, we've been using something recommended to us by Sock. The person in the body will write down key information about the stuff we're doing on the computer. We've found this helps my host stay focused for way longer periods of time when hanging out with us. It kind of sucks when our fingers start hurting from typing so much, but it's a decent solution for us at the moment. One other thing is that it'll leave us tangible memories of spending time together. Good for future nostalgia, I guess.

As far as immersion for my host goes, and getting him to stop feeling his senses, we've been doing something rather simple. Yuki or I would take control of the body, and try to mentally push Dutch out of the head, to put it simply. This basic symbolism, putting things in terms of "front and back" of the mind, has helped a bit with immersion. Dutch starts feeling disconnected more easily, and just has to focus on the wonderland things to be very immersed. This can be combined with the above writing stuff down technique quite easily.

Re: Doujin and friends
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2015, 02:21:39 PM »
...who are in a similar boat as we are...

Heh, you said boat.

What does Dutch think about the stairs?

Re: Doujin and friends
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2015, 02:34:51 PM »
send help

Re: Doujin and friends
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2015, 09:53:38 AM »
practical example; fucking rats rats so cold cold scarred my innovation 

Re: Doujin and friends
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2015, 11:41:34 AM »
Sonta what.

Re: Doujin and friends
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2015, 11:24:11 AM »
It's been a while since our last post. We've been living life as usual, really, and when it comes to progress on the switching front, there has been little. Dutch still can't look away from the body easily if anything that stimulates the senses happens to the body. I can possess and walk around in the woods, draw things or slowly read while he wonderlands, but anything more than that pulls him right back into the body. We're making do with things as they are, but I guess we'd all like to see a breakthrough with this.

We've been working on lucid dreaming, or rather, Dutch is. There's this interesting concept of "all day awareness" in the dreamviews community, and it means that you constantly look around, feel your senses, try to truly experience things as they happen to you, rather than living in your thoughts. Practicing this awareness, walking or cycling around, or even on the computer, has so far led to better visualization, more vivid and memorable dreams (no lucids though), and seemingly better focus. I suppose it's a living in the moment kind of thing.

In other news, Sen and I found pictures that resemble our not-anime-anymore faces pretty well, and we had her birthday party last week.

Re: Doujin and friends
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2015, 03:15:17 PM »
I am somewhere between this and this.

Sen's face looks similar to these two, including freckles, but with the white hair and blue eyes combo.

Re: Doujin and friends
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2015, 05:13:42 AM »
Started imposition practice, staring at my girls while they stand in my room or sit in a chair. I'll basically just sit opposite them or walk around them and look at them from different angles, trying to see as much as I can, and sometimes moving close to observe details. My visualization is decent at this point, but my focus isn't perfect all the time.

As far as results so far, I get some vague hints of grayish blur in the rough location of tuppers after some staring, and small squiggly lines moving over my view of them. I'll try to work on solidifying the hallucination in the coming days or something. Talking like this is something I haven't done enough in the past, it's kinda chill to just sit around in my room like this.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2015, 12:44:55 PM by Dutch »

Re: Doujin and friends
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2015, 08:12:47 AM »
pls tp be no shitpost

Re: Doujin and friends
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2015, 09:03:57 AM »
Still practicing imposition, but the focus moved from visuals to audio for now. I always felt like that part would be most rewarding, personally, and it's easy to practice. I put on white noise, and let one of the girls read from a certain superhero serial, trying to focus on listening to all aspects of their voice. It's a fun exercise, mostly in that they get to act out all this stuff, and I get to listen to a loli trying to do an evil supervillain voice, which she can't pull off at all. During the reading I put on white noise on my headphones. With white noise on, their voices are easier for me to imagine vividly, but I haven't noticed too much carry over into normal life and conversation. It still takes a bit of effort to really listen to really hear their distinct voices in my head, and there's no sensation of the voices being external, yet. I guess they're vivid enough during the practice and when I pay attention, but it's still all mindvoice. I cut some audio of a stupid VN we're playing together to get a clip of a voice close to Sen's and I'm listening to it on repeat at times. It's getting pretty awful to listen to, what with the fucking onii-chans and stupid anime phrases.

I went to the shrink and he called me a potential autist and I got mad. More appointments soon, maybe I'll be able to test out either ritalin or dexamphetamine for my complaints about ADD symptoms. We'll see how that influences my tuppers and how I experience them, cause I read one account about a dude becoming 10x better at tuppering while on adderall. Drugs are great, I'll make sure to become super addicted if it works.

Clink clink makes me want to kill myself.

Re: Doujin and friends
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2015, 09:25:15 AM »
I wonder if there's a story of someone else failing while on adderall. That's how tuppering tends to go, helps one but fucks it up for someone else.

Remember to clink clink. Can you hallucinate that sound yet?

Re: Doujin and friends
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2015, 11:00:37 AM »
Only one way to find out. I've had pretty crazy stuff happen to me on ecstacy when Yuki was like 3 months old, with amazing audio hallucinations. Also the whole learning possession on shrooms thing was rad.

Drugs can be used as tools at the right times, especially with mindstuff like this. Gonna test this tool out......

Re: Doujin and friends
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2015, 03:27:24 PM »
It's a full spectrum of shit, so I can listen to endless shit in my ears without outside things really getting through. Guess I do get ear cancer after a while, so maybe I should change it up, see what I like more.

Re: Doujin and friends
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2015, 04:33:51 PM »
I recently had some success with auditory hallucinations by listening to the sound of rapid flowing water while hiking, see here.

Recordings never really worked for me in this respect.

Re: Doujin and friends
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2015, 08:11:41 AM »
Let me just find a waterfall in the flattest country on the planet..... Maybe if I find a public pool with one I'll be able to hear kids' voices.

Seriously though, I guess I'll experiment more with different setups for noise. I have pretty tight fitting, closed headphones, maybe it'd work better with more comfortable open headphones, or IEMs. I'll be hanging out with Yuki today on totally not a date blushblush and will be going for pink noise this time. I attempted white noise on speakers once, but it sounded like a very uncomfortable earthquake in my room.

Will report back. Meanwhile, the voices of my tulpas have become extremely distinct from one another. When I hear a thought, I am instantly able to pin it on either of them, and not just by focusing on ~~essence~~ or something like that. Purely tone of voice, volume and accent. That seems like a good development to me.