Author Topic: Every Day is Alice Day  (Read 540140 times)

Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #210 on: May 18, 2017, 06:00:02 PM »
Yep.
But such people constantly doodle because it's fun for them or they have nothing better to do. Both doesn't really apply to me.
Eh, we'll see how it turns out but realizing how much I lack even the most fundamental basics it's a bit discouraging. Studying human anatomy for now. I feel this will definitely help with imposition.
I've been to the park at sunset every day now, don't feel real progress with meditation or imposition yet but still is a neat thing to do together.
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Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #211 on: May 19, 2017, 12:07:52 AM »
Well, only one person who can make any activity fun, eh? That's yourself.

And studying anatomy is always great. Have you remembered to force a digestive system to your tulpa today?!

Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #212 on: May 23, 2017, 06:00:02 PM »
Is this new tupper meme? You should write a guide about it.

Anyway tupper is like


Guardian Spirits don't have digestive systems or any other sort if interior anatomy. It's all gross. And weak.
Or so I am told and considering all the fuss about muh teeth I am inclined to agree.

Read a lot into art theory and drawing basics, started drawing simple geometric shapes as training. Need to develop some fine motor skills and actually learn to hold a pencil the right way before I move on to more complex stuff. Really starting from zero here.
There is, however, one person who's even worse than me, it's tupper of course. Thanks to almost no training, possession mostly doesn't work at all so she can't even hold a pencil. It would be awesome to have Alice do the drawing instead of me but I'm not sure this is gonna work out. Mostly because she's not too enthusiastic about it, even less than me. But we'll give it a try.
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Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #213 on: May 23, 2017, 11:46:44 PM »
It was more like an old tupper meme...

Anyway you don't know what you're missing.

Ask tupper to draw a cat for us.

Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #214 on: May 28, 2017, 05:59:56 PM »
She will!

Might take some time though, tomorrow they'll finally rip out my wisdom teeth.

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Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #215 on: May 29, 2017, 07:27:41 AM »
What if she draws it while you're drugged out of your mind?

Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #216 on: May 31, 2017, 07:36:03 PM »
Sorry, no trippy experience so no tupper drawing yet.
Modern painkillers work like a charm without fucking up your perception.

The whole thing, maybe 1.5 hrs in total, worked out well. I'd call it the greatest tuppering benefit so far.



Had to wait quite some time for the injections to take effect while the surgeon was dealing with another patient. Before tupper I would have anxiously cowered in the dentist chair awaiting my fate. But now I spent about 15min imposing Alice, and as we got bored started to inspect medical equipment in the room, dropping an hourglass which rolled under a shelf. Just managed to get everything back to order before the staff returned. The surgeon was a pretty cool guy and talked to me through most of the surgery making me give thumbs up or down as reply while discussing the German academic system. Told me to keep up my underpaid work in academia because society needs such people. Tupper agreed. Well except for the payment part...

So I was kinda occupied but managed to keep tupper around. I also did some wonderlanding and Rubik's cube rotation exercises in between when things got rough. There was nearly no pain, but enormous pressure when my teeth were pried out of my jaw bit by bit. I'll spare you further details but the sound of your own teeth breaking apart is nothing pleasant.

Still nothing to complain, walked home afterwards without much impairment.
So far so good but there's also the bad. While meds work well, some nagging pain remains which kills most motivation. Here tupper can't help as I can't focus on her. Forcing of any sort doesn't really work either. The pain comes and goes, mostly I'm fine. But it's interesting to note that at least for me tuppering works incredibly well against anxiety and fear, sometimes too well. It's pretty effective against low-medium short time pain but completely ineffective against longer lasting aches which get me down.

I did try to draw every day but I'm fed up with basic shapes and drawing anything meaningful just looks like crap. Ah well, I hope my motivation gets better when all pain is gone. I'll finally get that Intuos board this weekend, that's another incentive I hope. Cat will be delivered.
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Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #217 on: June 01, 2017, 07:59:50 AM »
Toothache is a special kind of pain, but how about tupper will one day test on trying to numb your pain? >the horn managed to do it.

Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #218 on: June 02, 2017, 09:06:58 PM »
Quote from: Sands
how about tupper will one day test on trying to numb your pain? >the horn managed to do it.


Pls gib advice!

I'm more or less back to normal, no more pain, no more meds. Went back to meditating in the park, was ok. I started reading Betty Edwards - Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain which seems to offer an interesting approach with obvious parallels to tuppering. Definitely need a well-coordinated approach before I mindlessly start to try out random stuff again. And as I've said before I think my main issue is lack of perception. It's really hard for me to actually grasp what I'm seeing so I can't reproduce it in drawing or visualisation.
Tupper will also continue to practice possession so we can both start drawing. This should provide some incentive.

Also had a series of interesting dreams.
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First took place in Nymphenburg Park where I often go to meditate and force. I was carrying a lot of food while walking along a steep edge that exists nowhere in that park when I tripped and fell to my death. While falling I wasn't even mad and just thought I'd wake up from a rather boring dream now - which I did. Falling was unpleasant though.

The second was somewhere on my East Asian journeys, maybe India, walking down a hill in a city full of colorfully clothed people going about their daily lives. One local family at a market stand approached me and asked me to film them with their camera. It was some cheap plastic camera but seemed indeed capable of taking videos. However the people kinda ignored me and began to pack up their stuff and leave. I was puzzled and didn't know what to do as there was nothing to film or take pictures of anymore. Nearby was another tourist, an old man with lots of camera equipment laid out on the floor, mostly lenses that were strangely battered and bent. It didn't seem to concern him. I wished they'd asked this guy instead of me as I felt I had to move on. Suddenly there was a friend from high school sitting next to me who advised me to keep going or I'll miss my flight. He seemed in no hurry himself and stayed there.
Somehow managed to get on a tourist bus that went along Vietnam's Ha Long Bay. While the tour guide announced the route I proudly told him: "Not me, I'm going to the airport!" He seemed worried and went to talk to the driver, returned and remarked that I was pretty late. I replied I still had lots of time but wasn't that sure anymore. Also I missed a suitcase but decided I could not possibly have carried a suitcase anyway. Being late and losing luggage was the most realistic part of the whole stuff. Finally the guide told me he'd drop me off at the 'spaceport' instead which was pretty cool. I mean did you even know that Vietnam had a spaceport?

I dunno if this was a separate dream or how I ended up there, but now things got really weird. A mixture of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and Ijon Tichy: Space Pilot but far less reasonable.
Anyway, the 'spaceship' was my childhood bunk bed and the captain a little girl that looked somewhat like tupper but was not. While lying in bed captain announced over the PA system that she had to recalculate our course or we'd end up in the sun but that didn't concern me in the least. Then I went inside - read: under the blanket and the inside was quite spacious. A terrace on a cliff overlooking a landscape and a villa behind it. Captain announced that we had entered hyperspace and the journey would take 20min. Out of curiosity I took another look 'outside' again. Everything was completely black, yet the bed was somehow illuminated from an unknown source. Yep, hyperspace!
Back inside, captain and the old photographer from before were standing on the terrace. First I talked to the guy (don't remember what) but actually I wanted to ask the girl a lot of questions. I asked what distance we'd be covering and she said 3.1 ly. I thought it was really cool that it would only take 20min to get home instead of spending an entire day on a plane but that our destination was light-years away did not ring any alarm bells. And I was amazed that this little girl seemed capable of sovereignly operating a spacecraft. I asked about her longest journey and she said she'd been in hyperspace for 6 months. Impressive!

We then went into the villa which was clearly upper-class but not overly luxurious. A big apartment with dark furniture and carpets on the floor. Captain was sitting on the floor and reading a children's book on space travel with the neighbor's dog on her lap, leaning against me. She seemed to wear Anzu Futaba's outfit but I'm not sure.
I took a closer look at the book and the cover turned into a French Asterix comic. I started to laugh uncontrollably with the girl and my mother, who out of nowhere was sitting at a desk nearby, gave me very concerned looks. I explained that the title, when translated to German meant 'Encyclopedia of German altar paintings'. Actually I could not read anything but somehow that was the funniest thing ever. To prove my point I opened a random page and a sacral painting that was displayed it the room as an antiquity was accurately depicted in the book. There was lots of text too but nothing that made sense. My mother demanded I hand over the book so I would not do any more nonsense and put it in a shelf. Suddenly it was announced that we had arrived. Mum grabbed a stuffed guinea pig which appeared to be her only luggage and we left.
End.



It's absurd how much I take everything in dreams for granted even if it screams 'dream' at me. And even if I know I'm dreaming I rarely manage to become lucid. Still was fun.
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Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #219 on: June 03, 2017, 07:35:23 AM »
He literally just did it. I know I tend to jokingly throw that around but that's also legit what you do. The journey is making yourself realize you can do it.

He says it's about willpower. He showed me how to do it too and it's literally just thinking hard enough that it doesn't exist so it doesn't.

Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #220 on: June 10, 2017, 09:40:03 PM »


Hmm, that's kinda what I expected.
Still I wonder. So he was able to numb your pain without your participation?
Also, does it work against persistent stuff like headaches?
I mean, stubbing your toe and ignoring the pain for a few seconds is one thing. I can do that to a certain degree and it indeed works. But tupper still hasn't got the hang of manipulating the body's senses in any sort. Any advice where to start?

It's June, so let's take a look at May.
Personal development: good
The whole dentist stuff worked out really well, tuppering skills have proven highly beneficial. Also took up drawing which I feel will help tremendously with a number of issues, especially visualisation and focusing.

Tupper development: average
See last month. And the ones before. Average equals zero, but that's still average.
We did more outdoor forcing and a bit of possession but it's not going especially well. Alice has drawn some faint shapes that were mostly random as controlling the arm is still very hard. And me drawing has siphoned off a considerable amount of time. I have radically cut down on watching TV and expected to free time for forcing this way but I dunno where it went. Not into forcing, that's for sure.
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Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #221 on: June 12, 2017, 04:41:39 AM »
Yeah, headaches are the most common thing to ignore. Super painful I'm-gonna-puke-and-faint might not work, but your average headaches work well. You'll know that you have a headache and there definitely is the feel of a headache, just painless. It's weird to explain and your experience might be different.

Tupper just needs CONFIDENCE. There's no one way to do it, no buttons to press. Though she definitely could imagine a button she presses, symbolism goes both ways after all. She just needs to know she can do it and it will work when she decides to do it. A confident tupper has helped me a ton.

ps force more faggot

Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #222 on: June 18, 2017, 07:50:55 PM »
That's pretty amazing!
Luckily I don't suffer from headaches or other persistent pain very often, we never managed to deal with that.
I guess the main issue is not confidence but rather resolve or motivation. Both of us and especially tupper have very low resilience and can't cope with unpleasant situations. We excel under optimal conditions but as soon as there is even a slight annoyance, our abilities, or rather the will to use them, crumble to dust. That does not apply to stuff that can be immediately resolved or is otherwise exciting, but mundane things you have to sit out or live with really kill the mood. Hard to explain. I honestly had fun at the dentist, it was not an issue and tuppering worked well while having my teeth removed. But going through that once a week would be something else and just a pain. So our motivation, and that's the main factor determining our abilities, highly depends on our surroundings. I know that's not good and it really sucks but changing that ain't gonna be easy.

Wow, you can really learn a lot about yourself by observing tupper.
Come to think about it, I've found that practicing drawing really wears me out and gives me headaches. So that could be a good way to start practicing pain removal.

I had 2 more vivid and equally absurd dreams with tupper references. There were aliens and robots, the Dalai Lama and Minister of Finance Wolfgang Schäuble. Even realized I was in a dream once but that caused me to wake up.

Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #223 on: June 19, 2017, 12:29:41 AM »
But did you force more?

Re: Every Day is Alice Day
« Reply #224 on: June 24, 2017, 05:55:03 PM »


more, yes
enough, no
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