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Re: This makes two
« Reply #165 on: February 24, 2014, 09:03:02 AM »
How would you talk with someone who is mute?

Re: This makes two
« Reply #166 on: February 24, 2014, 04:44:51 PM »
No paper, gotta handle the situation with a mute person, maybe you were in an accident and now you two are in the middle of nowhere with no one else.

Gogogo.

Re: This makes two
« Reply #167 on: February 25, 2014, 09:57:05 AM »
Mute tuppers can also respond in some way.

You could make the imagination game even harder and decide that the mute person is also paralyzed and blind. WHAT WOULD YOU DO roll initiative.

MegaBusta

Re: This makes two
« Reply #168 on: February 25, 2014, 09:59:44 AM »
I roll to kick them while they're down.

Re: This makes two
« Reply #169 on: February 26, 2014, 08:35:03 AM »
Well you can ask for the stuff, but if it hasn't ever happened before then you're most likely not getting it right away like that. Or perhaps you just can't notice it yet, because it could be super weak. And hell, even when I noticed stuff early on, I wasn't able to connect the dots until much later.

But you're sounding like you have already decided the tupper can't do some of that stuff, which could affect you in a negative way. Once you start mentally blocking possible ways of her contacting you, you're not left with much. Attitude change might help here, instead of "nothing" it's just "not yet". Keep the methods open instead of telling your easily manipulated brain that something doesn't or won't happen. Negative stuff gets stuck super easily and nocebo is a thing.

Re: This makes two
« Reply #170 on: February 27, 2014, 08:37:23 AM »
Relax and don't worry about it. Follow your own gut feeling, be calm. No need to be rash or anything.

Have you ever worked with clay or something like it? Including touch into visualization that way can be really useful if it's already something you know how to do somewhat. Touch your tulpa's form as if you were molding it, feeling every little nook and cranny that their body should have if you were the one who has to mold it with your own hands. You could do the entire body very detailed or loose at first, or just take one part and really concentrate on feeling that one from every direction. The wrinkles, the pores, the hair... It all is there, if you wish to feel it. And well, massage is always something you could do, too.

Any visualization can help you to get better at visualization, of course. And narration is good too, so it's great that you have managed to make it a thing and stick with it.

Re: This makes two
« Reply #171 on: March 02, 2014, 05:07:12 AM »
You can easily hate any kind of method of creating art when you'e not very good at it and can't translate how you want it to look to the real world with your own hands. That's why it might be better to not have a solid idea and instead do something, shaping it as you go. Let your own hands decide how it should look and feel, working with clay should feel nice. At least I think so. Pottery has never been my thing and that's usually the only kind of thing you get to do if you take courses, but I think it's more fun to just make weird little things and statues out of it. Just get out a piece, work it so it's soft and easy to make into something else and start playing with it.

Head pressure would be pretty helpful, so do keep an eye on that and see where it goes.

Re: This makes two
« Reply #172 on: March 04, 2014, 08:58:00 AM »
That's why it's usually better to buy your own clay or some other material. It's not very expensive, you don't need much of it and you certainly don't need anything fancy unless you're trying to make something you can eat and drink out of, I guess. Start simple and it's less like practice and more like doing simple things which will actually be finished and look like they're supposed to look.

Earlier, when you thought your tupper was vocal, you seemed pretty excited and happy about it. You did stuff with the tupper. Is that what you want?

Re: This makes two
« Reply #173 on: March 04, 2014, 03:57:33 PM »
Sounds to me like you have tons of issues with your parents.

Re: This makes two
« Reply #174 on: March 05, 2014, 08:55:06 AM »
My point is, your home life doesn't sound very encouraging or happy. An environment where people who don't really want to do anything are raised, because everything they might want to do is immediately shot down for one reason or another. And that affects your entire life. Getting quite off-topic here, but I'd say the root of many of your problems is found here.

Re: This makes two
« Reply #175 on: March 07, 2014, 08:18:15 AM »
Dunno about you, but our teachers constantly say that school is never the only place for learning and parents must help their kids as well. They do what they can at schools, parents have to do what they can outside of school. Our school systems are very different and there's not much you can do about not being able to go to the good, expensive schools without money... But punishment instead encouraging and helping is never a way to raise a child. You'll only get someone scared of trying to do anything new, someone who will grow to resent their parent(s) and someone who barely has anything to call their own. Not many ways to enjoy life.

And that's something no one deserves in my eyes. Considering you're not even allowed to be who you are and express parts of yourself. Sounds like torture.

Parroting is a valid method. I dunno if there's any method that isn't valid, as this is mostly about making your own mind do weird stuff. Mindset is what is the key and you're going to need some confidence in what you're doing. Try different things and see which one feels the best, it's so personal that none of us will have a similar way of creating tuppers, even if we follow guides.

Re: This makes two
« Reply #176 on: March 08, 2014, 01:27:31 PM »
That's still enough for you to be taken away from him if someone in power found out. So keep that in mind.

No experts here except you. Too personal and only you will know if it feels right. Things can feel off. They probably will, rarely do people get those super alien voices out of nowhere but it does happen. But then it's just a matter of learning to trust. The story for many of us is that at some point, there is just too much of something different for us to continue thinking that it may or may not be the tupper. Too many surprises, too many things out of nowhere we didn't think of, things we never thought the tulpa would say, stuff we never had before in our lives, very different opinions from your own. Getting called out on shit you think is alright but they think is wrong. Don't know about you, but when there's so much of that and it takes you off guard... What is it if not a tupper? While we don't know if tuppers really are sapient or anything, at least we know that's how they should seem. And that's what they will seem like, with enough time and care. Stupid to keep doubting at that point.

Re: This makes two
« Reply #177 on: March 17, 2014, 05:40:02 AM »
Well, if you need a break then take a break. Might be a good idea to at least say good morning and good night every day, as that doesn't really take much.

You do have good visualization skills and focus, just not when it comes to tuppers. Perhaps you could involve the tulpa when you have your usual daydreaming sessions by you know, showing it to them. Like you're making them a little play. You could tell them some side comments here and now, but you like to work on the roleplaying characters. I know that feeling, it's different than working on a tupper seeing that you get to control everything about a character while you're sorta aiming for not controlling a tulpa. But it doesn't mean you can't do those things together, even if you're not staring at the tulpa while doing it. They're there with you, more or less always.

Re: This makes two
« Reply #178 on: March 18, 2014, 08:29:31 AM »
That kind of stuff is just fine. As for it being so simple you can't think of anything to say about it, imagine that your listener is even simpler than that. They probably aren't, but I've yet to hear of a tupper that would rather not listen to even the simple stuff if the alternative is nothing at all. And well hey, if you do happen to piss them off somehow, that might end up generating responses...

As for what to say, you could explain the people that are in the play, their character, their personality. Just by doing stuff alone you are doing that, but you can add words. You don't even have to add too many, maybe we're finding a new narration method here that is nothing but images. Those already would tell a lot about yourself. I guess the things that might require explaining are when a character does something where their motives might not be obvious. So you could say why they're doing it. What is important is knowing that someone else is watching and this someone else is your tupper.

Tuppers tend to know a lot about you. Yours is most likely no exception, so she has seen it all. Everything.

Re: This makes two
« Reply #179 on: March 21, 2014, 09:42:06 AM »
Us humans have this funny way of being around other people and thus knowing how people are supposed to work. That's why the uncanny valley effect exists, I guess. You don't have the same amount of familiarity with the pony form, so I guess it makes sense you can work with a human body better. Easier for your brain to fill in the blanks.

Glad to hear that you're starting to enjoy visualization a bit more. This is why I think it's important to try new things. You never know what might work for you and we won't either, any crazy idea you get is worth a shot just in case it does work for you. Keep up the good work, now. Being able to see the tupper could easily help you get to vocality, as at least in my personal experience, body language came before speech. And that can already tell you a lot.